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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  freemindfade

  lol
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  freemindfade

  Let throw out a hypothetical date OneEyedJoe.

  It never hurts to take a walk down that path in your mind.

  next service year... september 2016, right before reporting time
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  Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

  even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

  the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

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  freemindfade

  Actually my orange marmalade is far more useful.

  agree
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  freemindfade

  Any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug? lol
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  Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

  even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

  the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

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  freemindfade

  There was no time and space? What the hell did he/she/it occupy? And I am a fan of string theory, I think its hard to say that there is/was nothing before the "big bang". Just because we humans THEEE MOST IMPORTANT CREATURES IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER GOD AND ANGELS happen to occupy this material universe, why does our universe have to be the end all? We think so small and arrogant, and that is how we came up with the stupid idea that is god in the first place.

  If the question is are their creatures on a higher level than us humans out there, I believe that is entirely possible and likely, do they have something to do with starting this universe, creating humans, giving us a purpose, or even knowing we exist, well that is a different story. There could be multiple levels of things superior to us, in both make up and consciousness, just like in the physical world of our own planet, why do you have to stop it somewhere and give it undue credit?

  Thats like my dog looking at me and thinking (which he probably does) I created the universe for him... I am the highest being, infinitely intelligent , able to walk up right and drive a motor vehicle... I am the supreme being!! When i am just another species in the world, I have caused nothing.
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  Would Jesus have been disfellowshipped by the "Elders" of his day . . . . . .

  by Dunedain in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i bet jesus would have been df'd by the "elders" in his day.

  lets think about it, jesus hung out with "worldly" people.

  his closest friends were known prostitutes, money collectors, men of "prominence" in the world of that day, non "beleivers" of the "faith" like samaritans, and many others that todays "elders" would have deemed "unworthy".. jesus spoke against the "organization" and "elders" of his day.

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  He was wasn't he? Disfellowshipping was a thing with the Jews at that time, banishing someone from the temple and wasn't he basically banished by the Pharisees?

  He disagreed with a self proclaimed "gods chosen earthly organization", he spoke critically of them in public, he taught things against their doctrine, he was the ultimate apostate, and because of it, he was censored, shunned, and eventually murdered.
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  Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

  even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

  the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

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  freemindfade

  Prologos and this creator of yours does or doesn't have his own creator?

  How far up the chain does it end?

  And if it ends with him, how do you come to this conclusion?
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  I hope the letter about deleting the Theocratic school is true.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.

  three of them were ministerial servants.

  all of them are from the spanish congregation.

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  freemindfade

  You did a good job, you are protected even if it was an elaborate hoax (which I am pretty certain it is not).

  You planted a seed.

  I still feel there is a "student" part, so I think saying they are doing away with it is a step further than the watchtower will explain. I think the school will just be changing. Because in the letter they used the words "student" I am hesitant to say they are throwing the school away, at least in their perception.
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  I'm a coward.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since the move, it has been so enjoyable to not have jw's breathing down our necks asking why we didn't make the meeting, or having to pretend to be "spiritual" in front of family all the time.. 90% of my week is virtually stress free.

  then, my mom calls or texts wanting to talk to her grandkids.

  every dang call, she asks about the new congregation, if we went to the meeting, etc.. why can't i tell her to fk off?

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  freemindfade

  You may not need to DA. Maybe if you cross that line into WT critic they'll back off out of fear. Or they will push you into DAing. I feel personally it's only a matter of time until I DA. But I still feel the right time for that is in the future. I wouldn't call anyone a coward for their calculated steps with this cult. But if you want to test your courage maybe try this.

  The arc is available publicly. Not on apostate sights. As a man with kids, you can say this is very disturbing and you need time to process the watchtower actions and ethics. And during that time because of your concern for your kids and the societies potential danger to children you are sequestering them from influence until you sort it out.

  Now they will probably shit their pants, tell you to talk to the elders and so on. But if you get the courage to push them over their cd limit they will leave you alone with out DA. Many people on here who have spoke their mind to the family have been shunned without DAing. Just think about that.
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  Watchtower Toledo buildings renovation designed by STATE-OF-THE-ART designer office

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for people who already are bedazzled by the current stream of information about watchtower / jw.org real estate planning, renovation and the emergency stop on the building programma called out, i found today that the renovation design of the (impressive!

  ) toledo buildings for the watchtower real estate staff, is designed by a state of the art designer.

  http://www.hudsondesign.pro.

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  freemindfade

  I hope the witnesses remember these folks "brother" jesus-feckin'-christ... had nowhere to lay his head.

  Warwick is (albeit much cheaper and modest) not the witness equivalent of mecca as some keep saying, but Vatican City. Toledo also as an extension.