https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc
I happen to know Ken and his wife. I have to say forcing oneself to believe greater and greater stupidity seems to be taking a toll. Sadly for bethel heavies of this age their life is 80-90% over and I think they will go down believing with the ship.
I'm not sure how a witnesses can listen to these "logical" gymnastics (about the baptism date) and not feel totally uncomfortable. There is a heavy underlying current of blundering confusion.
indonesia is a large nation to the north of australia.
more than 250 million people live there, and around 204 million (88%) are muslim.
the indonesian armed forces have nearly a million personnel, either as active servicemen or reservists.. australia, with a population of 23 million, and an armed forces of 80,000 (active and reservist), has no choice but to live in co-operation with indonesia, though the relationship is sometimes strained.
indonesia is a large nation to the north of australia.
more than 250 million people live there, and around 204 million (88%) are muslim.
the indonesian armed forces have nearly a million personnel, either as active servicemen or reservists.. australia, with a population of 23 million, and an armed forces of 80,000 (active and reservist), has no choice but to live in co-operation with indonesia, though the relationship is sometimes strained.
indonesia is a large nation to the north of australia.
more than 250 million people live there, and around 204 million (88%) are muslim.
the indonesian armed forces have nearly a million personnel, either as active servicemen or reservists.. australia, with a population of 23 million, and an armed forces of 80,000 (active and reservist), has no choice but to live in co-operation with indonesia, though the relationship is sometimes strained.
Village I think that is a religious hell hole. But I don't know what part of the country you are in but the populous parts are not. Not by any stretch. It's awful but it's small.
Sharia law a major part of Islam violates everything democracy stands for. We could easily admit not all forms of government are equal and some are even dangerous. Religion is no different.
indonesia is a large nation to the north of australia.
more than 250 million people live there, and around 204 million (88%) are muslim.
the indonesian armed forces have nearly a million personnel, either as active servicemen or reservists.. australia, with a population of 23 million, and an armed forces of 80,000 (active and reservist), has no choice but to live in co-operation with indonesia, though the relationship is sometimes strained.
indonesia is a large nation to the north of australia.
more than 250 million people live there, and around 204 million (88%) are muslim.
the indonesian armed forces have nearly a million personnel, either as active servicemen or reservists.. australia, with a population of 23 million, and an armed forces of 80,000 (active and reservist), has no choice but to live in co-operation with indonesia, though the relationship is sometimes strained.
I'm sure plenty here have read the bible, or major parts of it. How many are as familiar with the quran?
I'd have to say if there was a hate scale the Quran would be worse than the bible. And when taken as literal is more encouraging of proactive murder of unbelievers etc. And again the leadership pushes the ideology and Islam radicals are the leadership, can anyone tell me different?
indonesia is a large nation to the north of australia.
more than 250 million people live there, and around 204 million (88%) are muslim.
the indonesian armed forces have nearly a million personnel, either as active servicemen or reservists.. australia, with a population of 23 million, and an armed forces of 80,000 (active and reservist), has no choice but to live in co-operation with indonesia, though the relationship is sometimes strained.
Also not sure what history repeating itself has to do with the danger of islamic ideas?
A religion is only as good as its leadership
JW has the gb
Catholics have the pope
Islam has Extremists for leadership
Now you tell me how to fix that? Many world religions have softened with the leadership. The leadership of Islam is NOT the moderates. The leadership still promotes ideas that are harmful to women, homosexuals, unbelievers, and apostates. Like physically harmful.
indonesia is a large nation to the north of australia.
more than 250 million people live there, and around 204 million (88%) are muslim.
the indonesian armed forces have nearly a million personnel, either as active servicemen or reservists.. australia, with a population of 23 million, and an armed forces of 80,000 (active and reservist), has no choice but to live in co-operation with indonesia, though the relationship is sometimes strained.
What if history repeating itself us Islam torturing and killing in the name of God. History repeating itself does have to be the same religion. Islam is repeating the past mistakes of Christianity if you will. But when they were burning heritics and killing unbelievers most people were illiterate and it was totally the people doing it. Now most can read the bible and decide for themselves jesus didn't tell his followers to behead infidels as Mohammed did.
Can someone tell me is it possible for one book or one religion to be more inflammatory or dangerously interpreted than the other? Or are they exactly the same?
indonesia is a large nation to the north of australia.
more than 250 million people live there, and around 204 million (88%) are muslim.
the indonesian armed forces have nearly a million personnel, either as active servicemen or reservists.. australia, with a population of 23 million, and an armed forces of 80,000 (active and reservist), has no choice but to live in co-operation with indonesia, though the relationship is sometimes strained.
Sorry village idiot. These people you speak of are amateurs compared to Islam.
Let me sound like a broken record. The central influence and theocracy of Christianity is not good but pretty benign. The nuts are on the fringe.
Islam is the opposite. The central influence is the nuts and the moderates are the powerless fringe that had no influence on the actual religion. Does anyone else understand this at all????
Christianity is on clear decline regardless of some inbred wackos. Islam is growing. If you will believe absurdities you can be used to commit atrocities.
indonesia is a large nation to the north of australia.
more than 250 million people live there, and around 204 million (88%) are muslim.
the indonesian armed forces have nearly a million personnel, either as active servicemen or reservists.. australia, with a population of 23 million, and an armed forces of 80,000 (active and reservist), has no choice but to live in co-operation with indonesia, though the relationship is sometimes strained.
It's less about equal rights. freedom to practice and freedom to criticize are not the same. People are making a huge outcry for simply criticizing a belief system. That is powerful. That's what keeps jws in business the fear of critics.
And all the using radical islam to achieve political goals... maybe.. although those acting out right now are being dragged through the mud for it, so I am not so sure that is true. In america it seems pretty scandalous right now to be anti islam. And outside the political realm, what about America's own allies l like Saudi Arabia? They aren't jihadists, but you know what? hey still subscribe to sharia law, that means honor killings and many other horrific things, also they send shitloads of money to the Jihadist... proxyextremism. That you don't hear about because its allies. The religion is the state, the state is the religion and the religion is bad for human rights.
