ok, here i am going to bed.
I didn't think about them being biased...good point!
i run a technology discussion website, i shall ask when i get up.
Night folks!
i have been having a discussion with scholar.
and like most discussions with a jw we aren't getting too far.. scholar insists that the wts/jws are known for:are known internationally as a clean and moral peopleour organization alone stands as a beacon of truth, hope and faithadvance people spiritually, emotionally and physically.
there are other wonderful qualities that he attributes to the wts/jws but that is usually the gist of his remarks.. of course most x-jws will say something quite different.. the experiment is this:.
ok, here i am going to bed.
I didn't think about them being biased...good point!
i run a technology discussion website, i shall ask when i get up.
Night folks!
maybe this has been addressed before, but after reading certain comments about people being "outed", i wonder if the wts really monitors this site?
if so, to what extent?
or is it just individual elders etc.?.
ha, but no matter what tactics they employ, people soon see or eventually see the 'organization behind the name' and leave.
as i grew up as a jw it seemed that we accepted genesis was a literal account with the only question being how long a creative day was.
for the longest time, as best as i can recall, a creative day was considered a thousand years long, based on the ole "a thousand years is as a day to jehovah" rule.. somewhere though, it seems that there was some waffling on how long a creative day was.
especially since science was showing that the earth was millions of years old.. since i've faded i wonder, do jws today consider genesis as a literal account of how things were created, even if they can't explain the exact length of a creative day?.
all these reply's...
Yes they do take it literally
i have been having a discussion with scholar.
and like most discussions with a jw we aren't getting too far.. scholar insists that the wts/jws are known for:are known internationally as a clean and moral peopleour organization alone stands as a beacon of truth, hope and faithadvance people spiritually, emotionally and physically.
there are other wonderful qualities that he attributes to the wts/jws but that is usually the gist of his remarks.. of course most x-jws will say something quite different.. the experiment is this:.
i haven't the time since its 05:34am BUT go to www.watchthetower.com and look at the guestbook there, lots of comments that will prove what people think.
i know this might sound like a question from "la-la" land but as a black ex-jws most of the white jw's that i did have contact with were really nice.
i was talking to a hispanic ex-jws the other day and he was telling me of some of the racist experiences he had as a jw.
i did not contradict him but i never experienced racism from caucasian jw's.
Thats really odd cos i printed off something the other day regarding JW's and Racism.
*goes to get link*
http://www.geocities.com/paulblizard/blacks.html
Not had chance to read it myself yet...just the first paragraph
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recovering from being a jw is hard as hell, all your structure and life is built on study, ministry and meetings.. leaving is like someone after stacking up boxes to make steps, pulling the bottom box away...but the people who make it through become strong people and rebuild their lives, make new friends and move on.. what i want to ask is could you read literature by/for jw's now you have left?
i think yes, my reason being is i know that they play with information and then change ideas, there is evidence of this in older literature.. as for current literature i wouldn't bury my head, yes i don't agree with what they say but i am not afraid to point out things.
when you meet a jw at your door, what is your response?
do you invite them in and try and convert them?
(i have been tempted but it would be an argument not a discussion.
mmm, i need to buy some big dogs!
- All these welcomes, thanks!
i thought i would share this with you as i am still a little bit stunned to say the least.
my mother who is a longstanding jw came to stay over the christmas period as my uncle had past away and she wanted to be more local to the family, that way she could attend the funeral and provide some support to her remaining brothers and sisters.
she lives a considerable distance away from me at this moment in time.
excellent stuff!
when you meet a jw at your door, what is your response?
do you invite them in and try and convert them?
(i have been tempted but it would be an argument not a discussion.
They don't do it in the UK too much, i wonder if they will start doing it?
Witnesses do a lot of preaching on forums like this, SERIOUSLY i have to ask this, my mum always told me stay away from apostate sites and so did a lot of elders e.t.c - Is that just in the UK?
i know that we all felt the witnesses were to over the top on their restriction on sex, but do we want our children to be sexually active the way we wanted to be?
for example, should they have sex in high school with their girl/boy friends?
should they not be committed to anyway, and just have sex with whoever feels good at the moment, or better yet, who ever is willing?
i remember the 'Young People Ask' Book and how this was sin, this was wrong e.t.c
It damaged me for a while, and it took me over a year to get rid of some of the stuff i was told, even if i didn't believe it i still had it in my head.