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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  Drew Coul,

  Seems you are an agent provocateur here. I am disappointed.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  BizzyBee

  !!
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  Drew,

  That was horrible, all right. The Tea Party was tying HCR to Nazi death camps and doing so graphically.

  I'm sorry, but I fail to see any equivalency whatsoever with OWS.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  BizzyBee

  Are your referring to this?:

  
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  Drew,

  I viewed the clips you posted and I see a small handful of people taking advantage of the OWS movement to express anti-semitic views (and others expressing anti-Israel views, which are not the same thing). I don't see how that tiny sample can define a movement which, as yet, does not have a single, unifying, articulated message.

  The accusation that the OWS movement is "against rich people" is an attempt by those on the right to infantilize and trivialize the movement. It can be very effective with people who are ill-informed, so I expect to see it continue to dominate the right-wing's POV. But I don't think a world-wide movement, that is growing in numbers daily, can be dismissed so easily.

  I joined the protestors here locally last Saturday - out of about two hundred of us, there was zero evidence of anti-semitism or anti-rich. I stood on the sidewalk with a lovely, properous-looking couple in their eighties whose signs indicated their concern about the wars and lack of jobs - for their grandchildren. They didn't understand why everyone wasn't out there with us.

  The message is clear to those who are knowledgeable of current events in the context of history. As for the others, I'd say, the movement is effective at getting their attention. Specifics will come in due time.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  BizzyBee

  Wrong thread, botch.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  BizzyBee

  they think rich people are bad, and the Jews are part of the problem.

  They have not been effective at getting a message out, and that is their objective.

  Drew,

  First, do you seriously believe that the Occupy movement is about protesting rich people and Jews?
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  BizzyBee

  A movement that is becoming a punch line, and completely ignored.

  It's an amalgam of viewpoints and isn't really effetive.

  OWS is certainly not being ignored, as is proven by this thread alone. And it is therefore, by demonstration, effective.
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  Two-Tiered 1%--Issues With The Top 1% OR The Top .05%?

  by Justitia Themis in

  1. social
  2. current

  ...not sure if this has already been posted.

  it is from a sociology professor's blog, but it is written by his friend, who manages assets for wealthy clients.. http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/investment_manager.html.

  i sit in an interesting chair in the financial services industry.

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  BizzyBee

  1) - there is something inherently anti-social (or actually evil) about the very existence of a few very wealthy people in the population.

  Not at all - did you read the whole thing?

  A highly complex set of laws and exemptions from laws and taxes has been put in place by those in the uppermost reaches of the U.S. financial system. It allows them to protect and increase their wealth and significantly affect the U.S. political and legislative processes.

  I understand the need to spin some sort of 'hatred for the wealthy,' but that is just a desperate attempt to change the topic and avoid the real issues.
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  I Am Not at Home Here.

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i awake in a place that clearly is not home.. looking about in a blurry daze, the expected trappings of bed, chair and scuffed, dirty walls have somehow disappeared during my wretched slumber.

  all the familiar has slid away, swirling downward, but not swallowed, into an eerily black vortex above which my stiffened body floats unaffected by the devouring maelstrom.

  my immediate surroundings are an atmosphere of greenish hue that is part of what appears to be sky.

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  BizzyBee

  Thank you. I am up to page 4. What a wonderful way to relax and be in the moment. Reminds me of posters who are missed, but the CoCoCommentary runs through it like a true thread of continuity. Four years ago and yet seems like simpler times..........