Nice to see you here, PC!
Yeah, when I left 40+ years ago, I (and others apostates) thought there would be an exodus line right behind us. Clearly we underestimated the mindless pull of the the WTS.
Glad you're out and enjoying your life, PC!
i haven't been here in quite a while and thought i'd pop by.
i do lurk at times, i confess lol.
after reading the recent publications at the new golden calf (jw.org), my mind is kind of blown that jw's are still not seeing through the constant adjustments, clarifications, new light and reversals.
Nice to see you here, PC!
Yeah, when I left 40+ years ago, I (and others apostates) thought there would be an exodus line right behind us. Clearly we underestimated the mindless pull of the the WTS.
Glad you're out and enjoying your life, PC!
lately, even late night comedians are starting to make fun of the president.. i hear more negatives about the president than ever before---even from his own voters.. (i had high hopes for him when he beat mccain but since then, i believe the president has been a huge disappointment)..
There?
lately, even late night comedians are starting to make fun of the president.. i hear more negatives about the president than ever before---even from his own voters.. (i had high hopes for him when he beat mccain but since then, i believe the president has been a huge disappointment)..
wish he had had the guts to go to the one payer system for healthcare and eliminate the middlemen profiteers.
Me, too.
howdy....well, what do you think?
of everything?
is it all crazy?
AB,
It could be just you or it could be just all crazy. Could you narrow it down a bit?
lately, even late night comedians are starting to make fun of the president.. i hear more negatives about the president than ever before---even from his own voters.. (i had high hopes for him when he beat mccain but since then, i believe the president has been a huge disappointment)..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3p9y_OEAdc
Too tired,
You seem to forget the administration that took us into a war based on personal gain the likes of which this country has never seen and which may well prove to be our undoing.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/02/1326489/-the-jehovah-s-witnesses-just-came-by.
i've been lurking here off and on for a few years, figured i would introduce myself and share the clif notes version of my story.. i'm in my late 30's and was born in.
mom was a jw, dad wasn't.
got baptized in my teens and started dating my eventual wife.
Just my humble opinion -
One of the most generous and loving acts you could extend to your mother is to stifle your impulse to reveal your realization of TTATT. While it would be gratifying (for you) on several levels, unless you have reason to believe that she may benefit personally from the information, it would put your mother in a very difficult spot.
It sounds as if you and your wife have a pretty successful fade going on. There are many who would love to have had it so easy. It might be wise to play that out indefinitely. Don't make your mom choose between you and the JWs. You might not like the outcome.
just saw this today.
quite an experience.
the film raised many issues about clergy, religion, morality, guilt and forgiveness.. .
Just saw this today. Quite an experience. The film raised many issues about clergy, religion, morality, guilt and forgiveness.
A Catholic priest in NW Ireland is warned during cofession that he is targeted for execution one week hence because of the child abuse sins of other priests. He visits a cast of local characters during that week, each troubled in their personal lives and denigrating of their faith in the church.
Overall a dark film, but thought-provoking (as most dark films are), leavened with wry Irish humour and the bleak (yet beautiful) seascape of the Irish coast.
been lurking here for yyyyyeeeeears, but was too busy with school, jw life and other interests.
now that i'm done with education for the time being anyway, plus the jw life is under pretty good control, i can spend some time and throw my views here and there in some attractive topics.. born-in, and deeply indoctrinated, but with life experience came better comprehension of my lot in life and have come to accept that, just like the family one is born into, jws are my family, friends, my ultimate and overall identity.
a jw is what i am; like the song 'hotel california', and like so many on this board, check out anytime you'd like but one could never leave.. remember like it was yesterday the failed 'the wolf is coming' calls of 1975, mid-80s, late 90's, y2k, 2004 or so, and same will be with the latest effort to get people overly excited about 'the end'.
the religion will need to change tack and become just a religion, not a doomsday cult.
And yet, JW is a cult, not a religion.
As an ordinary religion they cannot attract those who JW always appealed to - the disenfranchised whose only hope was an inside track with God. Without the cult-y aspects - d-t-d, blood, apocalypse, anti-holidays, apolitical, anti-education - then why be a JW? Why not just be a Protestant and be done with it? That has always been the danger of JWs becoming just a mainstream, vanilla religion. What would be the point?
Without their counter-culture persona, what are they? The most incredibly boring people on earth.
been lurking here for yyyyyeeeeears, but was too busy with school, jw life and other interests.
now that i'm done with education for the time being anyway, plus the jw life is under pretty good control, i can spend some time and throw my views here and there in some attractive topics.. born-in, and deeply indoctrinated, but with life experience came better comprehension of my lot in life and have come to accept that, just like the family one is born into, jws are my family, friends, my ultimate and overall identity.
a jw is what i am; like the song 'hotel california', and like so many on this board, check out anytime you'd like but one could never leave.. remember like it was yesterday the failed 'the wolf is coming' calls of 1975, mid-80s, late 90's, y2k, 2004 or so, and same will be with the latest effort to get people overly excited about 'the end'.
I find this smorgasbord idea - take what you like, leave the rest - confusing. This is not the JW I grew up with, which advocated, "you eat what you're given even if you choke on it or we will shove it in from the other end."
If you remember 1975, you're no kid. And if you're college-educated, you're no dummy.
Something is missing in this story.