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  A child that DIDN'T want to die ... a blood experience you won't read in Awake! or on JW.ORG

  by wannabefree in

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  while doing work for a client in her office recently, we got into a light discussion about religion.

  she knew i was one of jehovahs witnesses as our business relationship started while i was still a loyal and believing jw.

  anyway, i said something that she knew didnt quite fit and she said ... i thought you were one of jehovahs witnesses ... i shared my story ... she felt comfortable to confide in me a story as to why, even though she has had dealings with jehovahs witnesses who she thinks are good people, she would never even consider listening to them about their religion.. i asked her if she would write it down for me so that i could share ... she agreed.. this is her experience.. .

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  BizzyBee

  Parents have the law on their side as far as their religious beliefs.

  So sad. This child did not have the right to determine his own life and death - his misguided parents did.

  More blood on the hands of the governing body. How do they sleep?
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  The reason behind why the ex-JW community can never match Jehovah's Witnesses' success.

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
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  an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.

  on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?

  not exactly working out for you guys.

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  BizzyBee

  Name another group of people with a variety of backgrounds that can come together with peace and unity dedicated to righteous principles?

  Jim Jones' People's Temple?
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  The reason behind why the ex-JW community can never match Jehovah's Witnesses' success.

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.

  on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?

  not exactly working out for you guys.

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  BizzyBee

  Whatever the current rate of defection from the organization is, the Internet is going speed it up.

  Accurate, accessible information is the WTS's biggest enemy.
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  "Apostates" Who Return To Their Own Vomit

  by minimus in

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  once you realize ttatt, how can anyone with half a brain, go back??.

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  BizzyBee

  "Judgmental"?

  Oh, that's rich, coming from a JW!
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  The reason behind why the ex-JW community can never match Jehovah's Witnesses' success.

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.

  on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?

  not exactly working out for you guys.

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  BizzyBee

  Have we determined his definition of the word "success"?

  Chrisuk
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  The reason behind why the ex-JW community can never match Jehovah's Witnesses' success.

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.

  on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?

  not exactly working out for you guys.

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  BizzyBee

  Are you here to school us about JW beliefs and practices ?

  Cuz most of us know TTATT inside and out. Literally.
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  The reason behind why the ex-JW community can never match Jehovah's Witnesses' success.

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.

  on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?

  not exactly working out for you guys.

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  BizzyBee

  Almost eight million JWs?

  And how many ex-JWs do you suppose there are?

  Based on what we see here, I would guess that at least 50% of JWs are just going througth the motions in order to preserve family relationships - "hostages."
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

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  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  snare,

  You nailed it.

  But again, I would say that, for some, there are compelling reasons to put oneself through this weird deja vu/insincere/superemely boring exercise.

  Almost beyond imagining.
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  BizzyBee

  Clearly, there are reasons one might return to the WTS even after learning 'the truth about the Truth' and many of them have nothing to do with a resurrection of one's belief in the WTS. (As has been illustrated so eloquently here, it's pretty hard to go back to eating at a restaurant where you have proof that the staff spits in the food.)

  Most common of reasons, of course, is family pressure and I've always thought that is totally understandable and a wholy legitimate reason.

  Another reason might be a need for the effortless, automatic social acceptance provided by association with the JWs. I can't understand this in any other context than a failure to create a new social milieu for oneself upon exiting the JWs - nature abhors a vacuum. (Many possible reasons for this failure - insecurity, laziness, ignorance, lack of resourcefulness.)

  Our friend SBF is in one of these predicaments, maybe both.
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  BizzyBee

  Someone once pointed out to me (while we were commiserating over the imperviousness of still-in JWs) that, "People who joined Jehovah's Witnesses for emotional reasons will not be influenced to leave for intellectual reasons."

  For those of us saddened about the departure of our dear friend SBF, maybe we should reflect on the fact that, in his own story, he makes it clear that his decision to associate with and embrace the WTS was strictly an emotional reaction to other painful circumstances in his life, at age 13:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/137609/1/Let-me-introduce-myself-slimboyfat#.UmXbZHDEXOE

  The kicker is that SBF has presented here for the past eight years as intellectually astute, though emotionally somewhat detached. He has expressed himself with substantive remarks up until he's asked why he thinks the JWs have the truth - then it is strictly a flat statement, devoid of supporting evidence.

  I think this is an important insight for those of us wondering WHY the dichotomy of SBF. The answer is in the first sentence of this post. Emotional influence is often stronger than intellectual and vice versa. Maybe we just didn't expect this particular configuration from SBF.

  P.S. Deep down, he is one of us - and there is no profile of "us" to fit, other than people who have learned TTATT, period. I hope he knows that he will be welcomed back here when he is ready, whether ten days, ten months, ten years.