Posts by Brigid

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Did you feel uncomfortable going into churches when you were a JW?...

by Hecklerboy in

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i remember going into churches when i was a jw for wedding or funeral and feeling a sense of dread.

i thought the demons were going to come out of the walls at me.

and of course i had the self-rightous attitude that the church would be destroyed soon in armegeddon.. recently i've been helping teach a karate class at a local baptist church.

Brigid

If I remember correctly don't they attempt to affirm most anyones belief??

Yes, they do. I've even find pagans there. It's more like Deed before Creed. They're really cool. Even the Jews think they're cool (one rabbi called them Jewnitarians--a very high compliment).

I never went to a church until my grandmother passed away. Now I go all the time. I'm quite the congregation/church hopper. I love to experience how different people approach the Divine.

Every one of them is beautiful in their own way.

~Brigid

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So what happens when you reach........

by Frannie Banannie in

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friends

5000 posts?

anything?

Brigid

Looks like you're about to find out, my friend.

~Brigid

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When you ladies think you have it bad... Sicko Marriage Contract

by daystar in

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think about the insane requests that this a$$hole made:.

At least he's honest. Actually, if one reads Ketubah's (Jewish Marriage contracts) from old days, one will find minutia such as this (how many times a year one will have intercourse, etc. if a woman fails to produce children, all bets are off, he may divorce or take a 2nd wife--oh and if he choses to dismiss her, she may never get remarried--ever, unless he (his choice entirely) produces a counter contract that allows her to do so). Marriage is just a contract--vaginal and womb ownership in exchange for material provision (I know, I know, I'm such a killjoy when it comes to marriage). And our modern marriage contracts are basically evolved from these old ownership contracts. The wedding ring evolves (some say) from the old days when a woman would have a ring in her nose and chained to the floor. I have no archeological evidence for this but it rings true. I personally prefer my ancestral ideas of marriage (handfasting) for a year and a day--then both parties decide how they want to mutually proceed.

~Brigid the killjoy

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When We Dance, Music to Fill the Soul

by daystar in

this artist has had more of an influence upon me and whom i've become than he could possibly imagine.. sting - when we danceif he loved you like i love you i would walk away in shame i'd move town i'd change my name

when he watches you when he counts to buy your soul on your hand his golden rings like he owns a bird that sings

when we dance, angels will run and hide their wings

Brigid

There are just too many songs, too many artists.

Here's a Pink Floyd tune that I like. I only heard it a few years ago. I love good poetry.

Wish You Were Here

Lyrics: Roger Waters
Music: Roger Waters

A Pink Floyd song played by Phil & Friends

So you think, so you think you can tell
Heaven from hell
Blue skies from pain
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail
A smile from a veil
Do you think you can tell

Did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghosts
Hot ashes for trees
Hot air for a cool breeze
Cold comfort for change
And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead roll in a cage

How I wish, how I wish you were here
We're just two lost souls
Swimming in a fish bowl
Year after year
Running over the same old ground
What have we found
The same old fears
Wish you were here

How I wish, how I wish you were here
We're just two lost souls
Swimming in a fish bowl
Year after year
Running over the same old ground
What have we found
The same old fears
Wish you were here

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When We Dance, Music to Fill the Soul

by daystar in

this artist has had more of an influence upon me and whom i've become than he could possibly imagine.. sting - when we danceif he loved you like i love you i would walk away in shame i'd move town i'd change my name

when he watches you when he counts to buy your soul on your hand his golden rings like he owns a bird that sings

when we dance, angels will run and hide their wings

Brigid

You'll remember me when the west wind moves
Among the fields of barley
You can tell the sun in his jealous sky
When we walked in fields of gold

So she took her love for to gaze awhileAmong the fields of barley
In his arms she fell as her hair came down
Among the fields of gold
Will you stay with me will you be my love
Among the fields of barley
And you can tell the sun in his jealous sky
When we walked in fields of gold

I never made promises lightly
And there have been some that I've broken
But I swear in the days still left
We will walk in fields of gold
We'll walk in fields of gold

I never made promises lightly
And there have been some that I've broken
But I swear in the days still left
We will walk in fields of gold
We'll walk in fields of gold

Many years have passed since those summer days
Among the fields of barley
See the children run as the sun goes down
As you lie in fields of gold

You'll remember me when the west wind moves
Among the fields of barley
You can tell the sun in his jealous sky
When we walked in fields of gold
When we walked in fields of gold
When we walked in fields of gold

~Brigid

23

No Animosity

by general in

i will begin by stating that i have been an inactive jw for about four years now and i currently have no plans on returning to the organization at this juncture.

i have read many of your experiences with the jw's and wts and i can certainly understand the rage, hatred, depression, anxiety, and sense of hoplessness as a result of your association with the jw's.

personally, i have had simliar experiences with the jw's such as an elder constantly chastising me for every "bad" thing i did by always informing me that " if i continued on the course i was on i would be destroyed at armeggedon.

Brigid

A warm welcome to you, Nick. You will find many stories, cries, laughs, wounded and healed or healing souls here.

Count yourself among friends!

~Brigid

22

I love my life!!!

by Brigid in

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friends

i just had an amazing, albeit fairly typical weekend.

i wanted to share with you guys and most especially any who are lurking or worried that life in "the world" leads only to crack addiction, aids, satan worship, etc.. friday: i had a fabulous evening out to a very nice, funky little italian restaurant with my 10 of my friends.

they'd gathered to celebrate my birthday early.

Brigid

((((Jojochon)))) back atchya! Hope this day finds you feeling more like yourSelf.

It's so great that this has brought out so many great experiences that we've all had since leaving. I definitely relate to your post, Carmel (I'm jealous of the Bay--you have mountains AND beach!!!) Colorado can't beat that. But, yes, it's so unbelievably refreshing to connect with people of different perspectives and find common ground or not, but still walk away englightened in someway.

Like being here. Different souls, different minds, different experiences, different conclusions afterwards, but one common thread.

~Brigid

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Do Jewish people have an opinion of jw's?

by sass_my_frass in

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friends

i only ever met one jewish lady at the door, and i had no clue at the time that they were the original people of jehovah (education by awake), but she very politely snotted me off.

i'm just curious whether anybody knows what jewish people think of jw's, if they do at all?

are jw's the ultimate blasphemers?

Brigid

mishegas (MISH-eh-goss)--N. An absurd or ridiculous idea or belief; irrational behavior. "Forget about dinner at your mother's. I can't deal with her running around in her bra and all her other mishegas."

This is something I have a fair amount of experience in. I do not tell most of my Jewish friends that I was even ever a JW. Too embarassing! But yea, can't beat yiddish for accurateness!

As for the name thing, "Jehovah". Orthodox Jews find it extremely disrespectful--even though this is NOT EVEN CLOSE to their god's name. It is an anglicized loose translation of a translation of an acronym of a DESCRIPTION of their god. Still, it's like going up to the president and saying "how's it hanging georgie (or in a different language--Jorge?) carbon based bi-ped who runs country north of equater!). There are probably a handful of people in any given generation from the Kohanim (what Christian's call the Levite) tribe that know their god's name--and I GUARANTEE you, no one else has ever even come close to knowing it.

Reform Jews could care less for the most part.

~Brigid

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I love my life!!!

by Brigid in

jw
friends

i just had an amazing, albeit fairly typical weekend.

i wanted to share with you guys and most especially any who are lurking or worried that life in "the world" leads only to crack addiction, aids, satan worship, etc.. friday: i had a fabulous evening out to a very nice, funky little italian restaurant with my 10 of my friends.

they'd gathered to celebrate my birthday early.

Brigid

Sherry,

Thanks! I always value your posts. Yea, a lot of people seem to be having inordinately bad times. With the coming of Spring, may we all be renewed by Her.

Blessings,

~Brigid

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I love my life!!!

by Brigid in

jw
friends

i just had an amazing, albeit fairly typical weekend.

i wanted to share with you guys and most especially any who are lurking or worried that life in "the world" leads only to crack addiction, aids, satan worship, etc.. friday: i had a fabulous evening out to a very nice, funky little italian restaurant with my 10 of my friends.

they'd gathered to celebrate my birthday early.

Brigid

Josey,

What kind of church did you find? Do you do charity work? It reminded me of another thing I love about my life. My charity work. I am a member of a pretty powerful "charitable" organization. They help women and children at the communal level (although sometimes on the national and international as well but the emphasis is helping locally). They even sent me (all expenses paid) to New Jersey last Fall to learn how to lobby at state and local government level on behalf of our service population.

So, in the organization:

Shut-in, shy recluse.

No charity other than selling people religious magazines.

Miserable marriage.

Abuse.

Outside:

Freedom.

Highly involved in charity and making the world a better place.

Prosperous.

Healthy (spent my 20's in the organization, depressed and overweight!) Now, at 36, I have a great body and mental attitude (little yoga, lots of bellydancing, and meditation).

In a word: Happy

~Brigid