Yes, It was a test of their Obedience. He foreknew the fearful consequences; and He also foreknew the Ultimate Outcome. We suffer and suffer, and wonder and wonder, why God has made such a world. But one day, after all has come to Final Fruition, our Suffering will be Over, and our Wonderment will Cease, and, with the Redeemed of all ages, we will join in never-ending Hallelujahs of Praise to God for Creating us as He did, and for leading us on to Life, Joy and Glory, in the Endless Ages of Eternity ( Revelation 19:1-8)
Posts by Rook
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21Was Adam's "fall" part of God's plan?
by dorayakii inthe watchtower society and many other fundamentalist christian faiths believe that god is omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent.
in other words he is almighty /all-powerful, all-knowing and all-good.
his omnibenelovence though, clashes with his omnipotence in that if he is powerful enough to change the human condition, and he is willing to do it, why does he permit suffering?...
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ransom sacrifice question
by streets76 inive been lurking for the past few weeks.
i was raised a jw, but was never baptized.
i faded away about 20 years ago, when, at the age of 27, i decided to go to college.
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Rook
God Himself became a Man, to give mankind a concrete, definite, tangible idea of what kind of Person to think of when we think of God. God is like Jesus. Jesus was God incarnate in guman form.
His appearance on the earth is the Central Event of all history. The Old Testament sets the stage for it. The New Testament describes it.
As a Man, He lived the most strangely Beautiful Life ever known. He was the Kindest, Tenderest, Gentlest, most Patient, most Sympathetic man that ever lived. He loved people. He hated to see people in trouble. He loved to Forgive. He loved to Help. He wrought marvelous miracles to feed hungry people. For relieving the suffering He forgot to take food for himself. Multitudes, weary, pain-ridden, and heart-sick, came to Him, and found healing and relief. It is said of Him, and no other, that if all the deeds of kindness that He did were written, the world would not contain the books. That is the kind of man Jesus was. That is the kind of person God was.
Then: He died, on the cross, to take away the Sin of the world, to become the Redeemer and Saviour of men.
Then: He Rose from the dead: is Alive Now: not me: not merely an historical character, but a Living Person: the Most Important Fact of History, and Most Vital Force in the world today.
The whole Bible is builded around this beautiful Story of Christ, and His promise of Life Eternal to those who Accept Him. The Bible was written only that men might Believe, and Understand, and Know, and Love, and Follow CHRIST.
Christ, the Center and Heart of the Bible, the Center and Heart of History, is the Center and Heart of our lives. Our Eternal Destiny is in His hand. Our Acceptance, or Rejection, of Him, determines, for each of us, Eternal Glory, or Eternal Ruin; Heaven, or Hell: one, or the other.
The Most Important Decision any one is ever called on to make is to Settle, in his heart, once for all, the matter of his Attitude toward Christ. On that depends Everything.
It is a Glorious thing to be a Christian, the Most Exalted privilege of mankind. To accept Christ as Saviour, Lord, and Master, and to strive Sincerely and devotedly to Follow in the Way of Life which He taught, is, certainly, and by far, the most reasonable, and most satisfactory way to live. It means Peace, Peace of Mind, Contentment of Heart, Forgiveness, Happiness, Hope, Life, Life Here and Now, Life Abundant, LIFE THAT SHALL NEVER END.
How can anyone so blind, or so dumb, as to go through life, and face Death, without the Christian Hope? Apart from Christ, what is there, what can there be, either for This World, or the Next, to make life worthwhile? We All have to die. Why try to laugh it off? It seems like Every Human Being would Welcome Christ with open Arms, and concider it the Proudest Priviledge of his life to wear the Christian Name.
In the last analysis, the dearest, sweetest thing in life is the consciousness, in the inner depths of our motives, that we live for Christ; and, though our efforts be ever so feeble, we toil at our daily task, in hope of, in the final roundup, having done something to lay, in humble gratitude and adoration, as an offering at His feet.
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ransom sacrifice question
by streets76 inive been lurking for the past few weeks.
i was raised a jw, but was never baptized.
i faded away about 20 years ago, when, at the age of 27, i decided to go to college.
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Rook
God Himself became a Man, to give mankind a concrete, definite, tangible idea of what kind of Person to think of when we think of God. God is like Jesus. Jesus was God incarnate in guman form.
His appearance on the earth is the Central Event of all history. The Old Testament sets the stage for it. The New Testament describes it.
As a Man, He lived the most strangely Beautiful Life ever known. He was the Kindest, Tenderest, Gentlest, most Patient, most Sympathetic man that ever lived. He loved people. He hated to see people in trouble. He loved to Forgive. He loved to Help. He wrought marvelous miracles to feed hungry people. For relieving the suffering He forgot to take food for himself. Multitudes, weary, pain-ridden, and heart-sick, came to Him, and found healing and relief. It is said of Him, and no other, that if all the deeds of kindness that He did were written, the world would not contain the books. That is the kind of man Jesus was. That is the kind of person God was.
Then: He died, on the cross, to take away the Sin of the world, to become the Redeemer and Saviour of men.
Then: He Rose from the dead: is Alive Now: not me: not merely an historical character, but a Living Person: the Most Important Fact of History, and Most Vital Force in the world today.
The whole Bible is builded around this beautiful Story of Christ, and His promise of Life Eternal to those who Accept Him. The Bible was written only that men might Believe, and Understand, and Know, and Love, and Follow CHRIST.
Christ, the Center and Heart of the Bible, the Center and Heart of History, is the Center and Heart of our lives. Our Eternal Destiny is in His hand. Our Acceptance, or Rejection, of Him, determines, for each of us, Eternal Glory, or Eternal Ruin; Heaven, or Hell: one, or the other.
The Most Important Decision any one is ever called on to make is to Settle, in his heart, once for all, the matter of his Attitude toward Christ. On that depends Everything.
It is a Glorious thing to be a Christian, the Most Exalted privilege of mankind. To accept Christ as Saviour, Lord, and Master, and to strive Sincerely and devotedly to Follow in the Way of Life which He taught, is, certainly, and by far, the most reasonable, and most satisfactory way to live. It means Peace, Peace of Mind, Contentment of Heart, Forgiveness, Happiness, Hope, Life, Life Here and Now, Life Abundant, LIFE THAT SHALL NEVER END.
How can anyone so blind, or so dumb, as to go through life, and face Death, without the Christian Hope? Apart from Christ, what is there, what can there be, either for This World, or the Next, to make life worthwhile? We All have to die. Why try to laugh it off? It seems like Every Human Being would Welcome Christ with open Arms, and concider it the Proudest Priviledge of his life to wear the Christian Name.
In the last analysis, the dearest, sweetest thing in life is the consciousness, in the inner depths of our motives, that we live for Christ; and, though our efforts be ever so feeble, we toil at our daily task, in hope of, in the final roundup, having done something to lay, in humble gratitude and adoration, as an offering at His feet.
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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Rook
Oh i forgot L,30: A,1: T, 300: E,5:
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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Rook
Called a "Man" : meaning, possibly, a set of Men; or, an Institution headed by a man or a set of Men. It seems to mean a name, the letters of which, when regarded as numerals, total 666.
Irenaeus, a pupil of Polycarp, who was a pupil of John, understood the 666 to be the Greek word "Lateinos": I,10: N,50:, O,70: S,200. These total 666.
"Lateinos" means "Latin Kingdom." Papal Rome made Latin its official language. And it still is. Rome's canons, missals, prayers, decrees, bulls, blessings, cursings, are in LATIN.
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Husband had to get a blood transfusion
by MsMcDucket inhi all, i told you about the heart attack.
well, he developed complications from the anticoagulant.
he got acute gastritis and started loosing blood in his stools.
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Rook
Hi, Hope all goes well.
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ALL SCRIPTURE 'INSPIRED' BY GOD......
by Mary inthis doesn't make alot of sense to me, because the word "inspire" can have alot of different meanings, as i've copied from the merriam-webster online dictionary below.
while i definitely believe in god, i think that #5 is probably closer to the truth.
if i write a book or a song and say i was inspired by elvis, that doesn't mean that elvis wrote it or even approved it-----it simply means that i wrote it with him in mind.
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Rook
Thanks IT Support and Jaffacake,
I also respect both of your opinion's.
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ALL SCRIPTURE 'INSPIRED' BY GOD......
by Mary inthis doesn't make alot of sense to me, because the word "inspire" can have alot of different meanings, as i've copied from the merriam-webster online dictionary below.
while i definitely believe in god, i think that #5 is probably closer to the truth.
if i write a book or a song and say i was inspired by elvis, that doesn't mean that elvis wrote it or even approved it-----it simply means that i wrote it with him in mind.
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Rook
Apart from any theory of inspiration; or any theory of how the Bible books came to their present form; or how much the text may have suffered in transmission at the hands of editors and copyist; apart from the question of how much is to be interpreted literally and how much figuratively, or what is historical and what may be poetical; if we will assume that the Bible is just what it appears to be, and study it's books to know their contents, we will find there a Unity of Thought indicating that One Mind inspired the writing and compilation of the whole series of books; that it bears on it's face the stamp of it's Author; that it is in a unique and distinctive sense THE WORD OF GOD.
There is a present-day view, held rather widely in certain intellectual circles, that the Bible is a sort of age-long story of man's effort to find God: a record of man's experiences reaching after God, gradually improving his idea of God by building on the experiences of preceding generations. In those passages, so abundant in the Bible, in which it is said that God spoke, God, according to this view, did not really speak; but men put their ideas in language professing to be the language of God, while in reality it was only what men imagined about God. The Bible is thus reduced to the level of other books, and is made to appear, not a Divine book, but rather a human book, pretending to be Divine.
I reject this view utterly, and with abhorrence. I believe the Bible to be, not man's account of his effort to find God, but rather an account of God's effort to find to reveal Himself to man; God's own record of His dealings with men, in His unfolding revelation of Himself to the human race; the Revealed Will of the Creator of Man, given to Man by the Creator Himself, for instruction and Guidance in the Way's of Life.
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jehovah the god of purpose
by ezra inisaiah 55;10,11 does anyone understand this scripture in regards to jehovah being the god of purpose
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Rook
Chapter 55 is the Servant invitation to all the world to enter his kingdom and share his blessings.
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John 20:30
by desbah in.
30: and many other signs truly did jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:.
anyone post a thread on this topic yet???.
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Rook
Here is the Author's unequivocal statement that his purpose was to demonstrate and illustrate the Godhood of Jesus.