If you really want to make his day, get him one of these;
Of course, it might take it's toll on your checkbook! But...he'll be happy.
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ok, a good friend of mine has just moved to a new house and i want to get him a house-warming gift, but can't think of what to get him.....any suggestions?
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If you really want to make his day, get him one of these;
Of course, it might take it's toll on your checkbook! But...he'll be happy.
to those that remember me i came here to tell you something.what i want to tell you is that you guys were right.
i have been researching the wt since i briefly posted on this board and i have come to the conclusion that the wt is nothing but a man made organization.
i have been researching the wt non stop since december.
It looks as if the Society will be facing more of this. Seems like a lot are leaving. Good job LBH.
my closes friend asked me today if her and her husband should just go ahead and write a letter of disassociation or wait to be df.
many months ago i talked with them about 607, etc.
all the things i was finding out.
If you worked for an unethical, dishonest employer would you rather be fired or quit? |
Very good retorical question, makes one think doesn't it? Under these circumstances I would tell Mr. Trump, "I quit", before he gets a chance to tell me "you're fired".
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first this is a question for ppl who converted to jws as an adult.
since yourve left the "truth" have you gone back to your old beliefs considering what happens to you after you die, do you thing you will go to heaven or hell when you die.. next , if you were brought up in the "truth" what do you believe now?
The money's real good!! Been thinkin' about that for a while now.
some funny comments.. 1.
"an elder and his wife who have raised three children report: 'from an early age, our children were involved in choosing where we would go on vacation... certain milestones in our children's lives were recognized...'" ???.
"at a time that does not interfere with spiritual activities, a few families may decide to enjoy a picnic together or play a game that is not overly competitive.
I always had a problem with some of these things. (1) If you're invited to a dinner party at my house,...you can have as much booze as you want, I'm not your mother or your baby sitter. Of all the dinner parties we've ever been to or given, I've never seen even one person that had "too much" that was not able get himself / herself home. (2) If we're playing a game of sports,...do you think I',m actually going to try to lose just so I don't offend anyone by being too competitive? Heck no, I'm there to win!
http://neocrat.com/sol.mp3 .
http://www.savefile.com/files/1740618
sorry for the long file, is there anyone that can clean this up a bit, the quality is actually pretty good considering the mic was hidden and i was in a big room.
You know...there is a common thread developing here, if an elder or elders indicate that they want to meet with you, just tell them that's OK, as long as they're OK with having the conversation recorded. Then tell them, the conversation will posted on the internet for all to hear. Wanna bet they back away real quick?
http://neocrat.com/sol.mp3 .
http://www.savefile.com/files/1740618
sorry for the long file, is there anyone that can clean this up a bit, the quality is actually pretty good considering the mic was hidden and i was in a big room.
Dan, maybe you'll need this!
hey everyone,.
just want to thank everyone for responding so positively to my first post (a long rant...and a new beginning).
thought i'd share a little of mys story...well maybe alot of my story!.
Rember Joe, it's all about two simple things, love for Jehovah and love for neighbor. Express your love to whomever you can, hold the door open for the little old lady at the grocery, look for that little kid that needs some help, look wherever you can to show some love to your fellow man, and I gaurantee....you will be loved in return. This will begin to take away your sadness and bring you hapiness.
Luke 14: 27, 28 - In answer he said: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole strength and with your whole mind,’ and, ‘your neighbor as yourself.’” 28 He said to him: “You answered correctly; ‘keep on doing this and you will get life.’”
Mark 11:28-31 30 - and you must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength.’ 31 The second is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
Love your fellow man as best you can, Jehovah and his son will surely look upon you with the same love.
i'm not sure where to start, probably in two major areas.
mechanics thing, that can't work, and what i see as the lack of true love in the brotherhood.
i've been in "the truth" or lack thereof, for about 30 years, give or take a little.
I think JWs have taken the idea of unity too far, and have put too much emphasis on preaching and have forgotten the foundation, the basics of love.
You've got it! That's my whole point, where are the basics of love, the very foundation of a Christian? If your brother or sister missing at the meeting, call them up to see if they're Ok, is what is preached from the platform. If your brother is hungry and is struggling financialy, help him out, is what is taught. But when it comes to the congregation actually doing it....hell would freeze over first. I justdon't get it, it's not that hard to show your fellow man a little neighborly love.
i'm not sure where to start, probably in two major areas.
mechanics thing, that can't work, and what i see as the lack of true love in the brotherhood.
i've been in "the truth" or lack thereof, for about 30 years, give or take a little.
I'm not sure where to start, probably in two major areas. Of course the whole 607 B.C.E. mechanics thing, that can't work, and what I see as the lack of true love in the brotherhood. I've been in "the truth" or lack thereof, for about 30 years, give or take a little. I don't mean to be scarcastic about it, I've learned alot about Jehovah and his son. But a lot of it, on the other hand doesn't make any sense. Someday, I'll go into it. I think It's been about eight months since I've been to a meeting. After eight months, how many people do you think have called me to see if I was dead or alive?...One. One sweet old man, that I would truly call my brother, and would give my life for. (If you get a chance to watch a country music video T.V. channel, look for Brooks and Dunn's - "Believe" video, you'll know what I'm talking about)
I've enjoyed reading your posts here, it makes me feel as though I'm not alone with my thoughts about the organization. Strangely enough, I'm not upset or mad, just ready to move on, not to another religion or anything like that, just move on. Maybe it's more about how I much I appreciate Jehovah and what he's given me, and to just cherish that, and appreciate it, to tell him how much I love him and his son for the life they gave me. No magic in it, no showy displays, just that I love him. I guess to, that I'm really disapointed in the brotherhood, there is no love where there used to be. Young men, brothers, of 12 years of age (give or take a few years) can no longer run the mics during the WT study, why? These little ones need to feel that they are valued, an integral part of the congregation, but they are not, and it saddens me.
In other thoughts...I have to admit, things are really strange, and getting stranger by the day. The whole blood issue and all the confusion that seems to go with it, I couldn't ever figure out how I could possibly understand it well enough to make a logical set of decisions for the DPA form. From what I am gathering now, it's even more confusing of late, although if something is confusing to begin with, how could it be more confusing later? Don't know, not going to ponder that one now.
I don't feel like complaing about the governing body or the organization, I just want to take away the positives and leave the negatives behind. I suppose I could look at it like this; the leaves that fall from the trees in the autumn are very messy to look upon after all the hard work I've put into the yard to make it look beautiful for the summer, but if I appreciate that those messy leaves, if left alone, they too have a purpose. They will provide a source of nutrients for the new spring growth, the new flowers that will need feeding, then perhaps I could change what I may see as negative and see it as a positive. So rather than complain, maybe I'll just try to see the positives, see people for what they are, for what they bring to the table. I've always done that, but for the life of me, I can't see why other people can't do it. Is it really that much easier to talk about your brother behind his back, to gossip, to label him as apostate, just because he has questions? I could not do it to another, but it is being done to me.
I see more love from an old woman at a grocery store who gives me a smile and wink than I do from our brothers. I have to wonder, what is wrong with that picture, how can a complete stranger be kinder than those I worship God with? It does not make any sense to me. I am very frustrated and at the same time saddened to see what our brotherhood has come to, I don't see how it will stand the test of time, but maybe it will, it's not up to me.
At any rate...I'm done with it, and I'm done for the evening.