Posts by AudeSapere

@BOTR - Thanks. Ground transport is not an issue for this trip, although I *did* get caught with that problem about 20 years ago. Had to take a train (?) into the city, then a cab or bus and then another train to get to northern NJ. What could be a 25 minute car ride was 3 hours of a city tour. I learned a good lesson back then - and was not sure if that had changed all these years later. Aparently, it's the same.

Fortunately, however, ground transport is taken care of for this pending trip. I just need to figure out decent flight details.

Thanks again. :-)

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Any Suggestions for R/T Air Travel LA to NYC?

by AudeSapere in

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any suggestions for good and cheap round trip airfare los angeles area to newark (or nyc)?.

it's been a while since i've booked flights.. .

virgin america non-stop $440.. .

AudeSapere

*waves*

Hi, Besty (and family!)

Thanks for the recommendation for Virgin. I think I found a winner.

-Aude.

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Any Suggestions for R/T Air Travel LA to NYC?

by AudeSapere in

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friends

any suggestions for good and cheap round trip airfare los angeles area to newark (or nyc)?.

it's been a while since i've booked flights.. .

virgin america non-stop $440.. .

AudeSapere

Gypsy Sam - Thanks for repsonding.

Personally I don't like driving anywhere near Newark, but person picking us up prefers that.

If I can get significantly cheaper airfare, then JFK is 2nd choice.

Have you flown on Virgin Atlantic?

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Any Suggestions for R/T Air Travel LA to NYC?

by AudeSapere in

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friends

any suggestions for good and cheap round trip airfare los angeles area to newark (or nyc)?.

it's been a while since i've booked flights.. .

virgin america non-stop $440.. .

AudeSapere

Any suggestions for good and cheap round trip airfare Los Angeles Area to Newark (or NYC)?

It's been a while since I've booked flights.

Virgin America Non-Stop $440.

Does this sound like a good deal or does anyone have better suggestions?

Any comments on Virgin America?

-Aude.

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Website with known apostates listed

by besty in

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hilarious - made my day.

who could forget senior pu?.

https://sites.google.com/site/silence1492/facebook-youtube.

AudeSapere

Funny that they did not post these:

Barbara Anderson

Randy Watters

Bill Bowen

Paul Grundy

Freeminds.org

Silentlambs.org

watchtowerdocuments.org

jwfacts.com

and Quotes. Quotes did a fantastic job and suffered all sorts of harrassment from the WTS. How is that he failed to make the list?

Maybe these people and sites are just too credible...?

-Aude.

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Do you have coconut oil recipes that does not involve knives?

by Iamallcool in

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i have been encouraging my mom to cook with coconut oil, it does help with her dementia symptoms sometimes.

it is just not safe for people with dementia to use knives for cooking, thats why i need some recipe ideas.

thank you!.

AudeSapere

Maybe look thru this list:

http://www.deliciousobsessions.com/2013/04/eat-more-coconut-oil115-delicious-real-food-coconut-oil-recipes/

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Whitney Heichel's family confront Gresham woman's killer, sentenced to life in prison

by AudeSapere in

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i didn't see this posted yet.... .

http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2013/07/whitney_heichels_family_confro.html.

whitney heichel's family confront gresham woman's killer, sentenced to life in prison .

AudeSapere

I didn't see this posted yet...

http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2013/07/whitney_heichels_family_confro.html

Whitney Heichel's family confront Gresham woman's killer, sentenced to life in prison

When it came time for Clinton Heichel to address the man who murdered his wife, he sat silently staring at the killer, Jonathan Daniel Holt, for a long minute.

Holt had just admitted kidnapping and shooting 21-year-old Whitney Heichel of Gresham and was sentenced to spend his life in prison with no possibility of parole.

More Continuing coverage of Whitney Heichel, 21, of Gresham, who was reported missing after she failed to show up for work.

"What do you say to the man who has taken the love of your life?" Clinton Heichel asked. "My life has been ripped apart and turned upside down," because of your selfishness. "But know this: I will see her again," said Heichel, a devout Jehovah's Witness.

More than 60 members of Whitney Heichel's family and church attended Holt's sentencing Monday before Clackamas County Presiding Judge Robert Herndon. Holt pleaded guilty to aggravated murder, first-degree kidnapping and first-degree robbery.

The shaggy-haired Holt, flanked by his two defense attorneys, sat with his head bowed, through almost all of the 50-minute hearing.

Holt sobbed as the victim's mother, sister and mother-in-law told him how his actions had affected them. But his tears flowed most freely when Clinton Heichel spoke.

During the silence, Holt lifted his head three times, locked eyes with Heichel then dropped his head. "I wanted him to look me in the eye before I said anything. A man should be owning up to the things that he's done. You should be able to look a man in the eye. It's about as simple as that," Heichel said outside the courthouse.

Before the family made their statements, there was a brief recounting of the events that led to the life sentence.

Holt left no doubt that he killed Heichel. He confessed three days after the Oct. 16 murder and led police to her body. Holt told investigators that he waited for Whitney Heichel outside her residence at the Heatherwood Apartments in Gresham, where they both lived. They also were members of the same Jehovah's Witnesses congregation.

whitney heichel.JPG Whitney Heichel

As Whitney Heichel was leaving for work, Holt asked her for a ride. About five minutes into the ride, he pulled a gun and ordered Heichel to drive to Roslyn Lake in Clackamas County, where he forced her to perform oral sex on him. He then shot her four times, killing her. Afterward, he concealed the body on Larch Mountain.

Heichel family members noted that Holt's family, including his ex-wife, who divorced him immediately after his arrest, also suffered . "Both families were forced to face the unthinkable," said Lora-lei Ritmiller, Whitney Heichel's mother

Ritmiller and other relatives recounted the pain and devastation of their loss, making frequent references to their faith and the belief that Jehovah would be Holt's ultimate judge. In a statement laced with Biblical references, Ritmiller said Satan was an invisible force behind such heinous acts and that Holt was "eager to be his puppet."

Chelsea Sauer, Whitney Heichel's sister berated Holt, calling him a coward, a liar, a thief, a pervert and a murderer. "We know what you are, the congregation knows what you are and Jehovah knows," Sauer said.

Holt made a short statement, saying he deserved whatever sentence was imposed on him. "All the things that were said about me are true. Because of my selfishness, I have stolen a daughter, a sister and wife," Holt said, speaking meekly and staring down. "I'm sorry for what I did."

Herndon acknowledged Holt's obvious emotional distress and commended him for taking responsibility, admitting his guilt and "not torturing your victim's family for months and months" making them await a trial scheduled for early next year.

"We got what we wanted," said Clackamas County prosecutor Steven Mygrant. "He'll be locked up for the rest of his life."

-- Steve Mayes