AudeSapere

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  Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  anyone know who this monty baker is?

  i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".

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  @LostGen & @MadSweeney - Thanks!
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  Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  anyone know who this monty baker is?

  i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".

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  I can't get the live feed. Are they on break??
  
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  A few facts to ponder

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been in correspondence recently with silentambs and a few interesting things have been highlighted.

  some of you may know, that bill bowen has twice tried to get the fbi involved in investigating child molestation issues in the jws org.

  this is what he said to me, i quote: we have reported to the fbi on two occasions and were rebuffed due to them not wishing to get involved with a religion.

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  Nitty-Gritty wrote: "...Also, sorry to disappoint you, but most “worldly” people are not going to be “put off” by the JWs because of child molestation issues as they know this is prevalent in all society..."

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  I agree with you on this point. Only the most naive person will believe they are completely immune to exposure to abusers and molesters.

  The most off-putting part, however, is the absolute lack of compassion and the further victimization on the child by those in charge. Add to that the encouragement to *NOT* report the incident(s) to the police and you have a horrible psychological environment in a (church) community that is supposed to provide shelter and refuge on AT LEAST a spiritual/psychological/emotional level.

  In other words, the way abuse reports are currently handled by the elders AFTER the report of abuse, heaps further abuse and then added isolation on the person who needs validation the most. This failure to respect and help 'heal' the victim in a *meaningful* way, is what is 'off-putting' to most rational people.

  The 'handling' procedures and processes MUST change.

  As with most traumatic events in people's lives, how the trauma is addressed AFTER the fact is often more impactful on an individual's future life and development than the actual trauma itself.
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  What would a JW do if their none JW neighbor molested their 9 year old daughter???

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have anyone heard of a case where they (jw) turn the person over.

  to the law???

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  Before we were witnesses, I was molested by a non-JW neighbor. (Decades later I found out the my younger brother was also molested by the same neighbor.)

  I recall at the time that I *did* report the incident to my parent(s).

  My parent(s)'s reaction at the time: He continued to be our babysitter.

  When confronted in therapy 30 years after the incident, my parent(s)'s response: "Aude is just making it up. She's just looking for attention. And besides, I spoke with the guy's mother and she said he would never do anything like that."

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  It may have just been a typical reaction/denial (or not) for the time period in which it occurred, but I'm not really sure. Some JWs prefer to stick their head in the sand and pretend everything is fine and they are great protectors and there is nothing they can do about anything anyway. Some non-JWs feel the same way.

  Others act like grown-ups and take charge and responsibility for themselves and watch out for their children's best interest.

  I would hope that modern-day (!!) JWs would not hesitate to action and would file a police report immediately whether the offender is JW or not.

  I try to keep hoping that (all) people will due the right thing. Sadly, I am sometimes disappointed.

  -Aude.
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  Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

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  @BoC: God Bless the RC??
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  Invisibility - Not Just For Jesus, finds the Royal Commission.

  by alfred newman in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so shocking!

  the u.k. seems a bit on fire over the scandal there too.

  people are upset about what the children have had done to them.

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  @Alfred - There are many links at the end of your OP. Can you please tell me which link provides the text you posted? I would like to see where it came from.

  Or... Is this letter from some other source??? Please advise.

  Thank you in advance.
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  Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

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  Dontcha love seeing the 'CONFIDENTIAL (RC)' watermark on each of the ten pages?
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  Nine Seconds that says it all. Have these elders any shame?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what can i add?

  this says it all.. elder on stand is mute till prompted.. .

  i guess i could encourage you to watch to the end and a guest commentary, lol..

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  It was a classic 2-minutes from the first 3 days of inquest. An uncomfortably long pause.

  Somewhere here on JWD someone posted about 8 lines of text about what was probably going thru his mind. It would so incredibly funny if it wasn't so incredibly tragic.

  Grateful to be out.

  -AudeSapere. (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself~!)
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  FMF Rant on Abuse and JW Apologists: The Single Root of the Whole Issue(s)

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.

  and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.

  a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.

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  (marking to read later)
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  WT Financial strategy to reduce liability - Create artificial debt!!!!!!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  see this letter from the royal commission: .

  letter from watchtower australia to governing body regarding transfer of funds between branches.

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=61967dc3-2203-4cca-8dc7-cd612c66645e&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0012.001.0023&fileextension=pdf.

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  From the letter cited above: ... the principle of holding sufficient debt between branches to enable a claim to be made in the event that adverse circumstances endanger the property of the branch, is clearly made.

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  Wow! How utterly calculating of the loving organization personally directed by Jehovah's Holy Spirit.