Once again, Watchtower rhetoric contradicts Watchtower practice.
The rules *can* be bent (and broken) when it suits the WTS - or when demanded by the Queen of England and her Royal Commission.
to all bodies of elders.
re: spiral binding of shepherding textbook.
dear brothers :.
Once again, Watchtower rhetoric contradicts Watchtower practice.
The rules *can* be bent (and broken) when it suits the WTS - or when demanded by the Queen of England and her Royal Commission.
1.is this rc only about the wbts?.
2. why did the gb/fds asked for all the money to be sent to hq?
ok so they could sent all that money off shore..
@Moggy Lover - Your comment above about the basis and scope of this Royal Commission is the best I've seen so far.
Thank you! It should have it's own thread and/or be highlighted each day of the hearings so people just joining in understand that this is not a judicial inquest, but rather, an investigative process to understand a societal problem that exists everywhere.
i'm just listening to this so called doctors testimony.
where did the watchtower dig her up from.
her answers have mostly been maybe's and i think!.
A cursory thought I had while listening to her testimony late last night was that, in theory and as evidenced by their own written material (especially the Awake! articles from the late 80's and early 90's), the WTS has the tools and exceptional communication systems in place that are needed to establish and maintain 'best practices'. They *do* know how to get their adherents' attention. They *could* present the protective information and values from the platform and/or in their WT study articles. They have an army of volunteers who are not afraid to walk up to strangers and present a message that they deem important.
They have everything in place that could actually effect a significant change that would benefit people on a deep and personal level.
They could. But they don't.
Instead they choose to bolster their image at the expense of their substance and their humanity.
i'm just listening to this so called doctors testimony.
where did the watchtower dig her up from.
her answers have mostly been maybe's and i think!.
Watchtower rhetoric contradicts Watchtower practice.
Also, Ms Applewhite complete missed the point of the entire commission - although Justice McClennan recognized where this problem originated. She was not given the proper assignment by Watchtower. McClennan stated, "Whoever asked her to give this form of statement was missing the point."
I think the WT is *so* accustomed to 'defending and legally establishing' itself and taking every public opportunity to brag and boast about how much better and faster and blessed they are than everyone else, that it was completely blinded to the clearly stated aim of these hearings.
Maybe it was their collective legal reflex kicking in that caused them to miss the point.
Or maybe they really are just a publishing business, run by arrogant bumbling buffoons, masquerading as a kookie-but-legalistic religion.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
Mr McClennen stated: Whoever asked her to give this form of statement was missing the point.
LOL!! Great summation to her 'expert' testimony.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
They're Back!
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
@LostGen & @MadSweeney - Thanks!
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
i have been in correspondence recently with silentambs and a few interesting things have been highlighted.
some of you may know, that bill bowen has twice tried to get the fbi involved in investigating child molestation issues in the jws org.
this is what he said to me, i quote: we have reported to the fbi on two occasions and were rebuffed due to them not wishing to get involved with a religion.
Nitty-Gritty wrote: "...Also, sorry to disappoint you, but most “worldly” people are not going to be “put off” by the JWs because of child molestation issues as they know this is prevalent in all society..."
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I agree with you on this point. Only the most naive person will believe they are completely immune to exposure to abusers and molesters.
The most off-putting part, however, is the absolute lack of compassion and the further victimization on the child by those in charge. Add to that the encouragement to *NOT* report the incident(s) to the police and you have a horrible psychological environment in a (church) community that is supposed to provide shelter and refuge on AT LEAST a spiritual/psychological/emotional level.
In other words, the way abuse reports are currently handled by the elders AFTER the report of abuse, heaps further abuse and then added isolation on the person who needs validation the most. This failure to respect and help 'heal' the victim in a *meaningful* way, is what is 'off-putting' to most rational people.
The 'handling' procedures and processes MUST change.
As with most traumatic events in people's lives, how the trauma is addressed AFTER the fact is often more impactful on an individual's future life and development than the actual trauma itself.