Posts by AudeSapere

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Saturday, Elders response to Royal Commission
by umbertoecho in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
on saturday the elder and his wife turned up.

i have my reasons for not turning them away at the moment, at least, not until the completion of the rc.. i asked him about his thoughts on the rc.

he said that he thought it was easy and nothing to worry about.
AudeSapere

Can anyone tell me when Monty Baker testified? I am interested in his testimony.
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Royal Commission needs to call GB to personally testify
by RedPillPopper in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
the gb needs to be subpenaed to testify just like losch was.

the commission needs to subpena each one individually and make separate fines when each one refuses.
AudeSapere

I think one of the biggest and most immediate benefit of this RC is the insight into JW practice and the (mis-)thought and (il-)logic of their processes.
Any current abuse or custody case can be benefited if the attorney/counselor reviewed the findings before showing up on court.
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Dr Monica Applewhite!
by username in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
i'm just listening to this so called doctors testimony.

where did the watchtower dig her up from.

her answers have mostly been maybe's and i think!.
AudeSapere

Can someone please post a link to DrApplewhite's submission letter to the commission?
I would like to read it.
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Jehovah's Witnesses "Handling Child Abuse Matters" flowchart
by jwleaks in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
jw leaks courtesy of the australian royal commission.

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AudeSapere

A very basic problem with JW handling of abuse is that the org as a whole views Child Sexual Assault as a sin, not a crime.
I wonder on an *individual* level, how the R&F vs elders vs higher-level JWs view it personally...?????
If something is a simple 'sin', then it makes sense to not involve the police. But any physical assault IS a crime. And sexual assault on a child, is a major and serious crime. In fact, "Sexual Assault of a Child is, in most cases, a Second Degree Felony. Aggravated Sexual Assault (child under age 14) is, in most cases, a First Degree Felony." [http://faqs.egmlaw.com/sexcrimes.html]
There is no justifiable excuse ANYWHERE, ANYHOW to not report this type of criminal assault to professionally-trained authorities.
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Is the Holy Spirit directing this testimony?
by Mad Sweeney in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
if anybody can advise how to get the vid to show here, i'll edit this post.

thanks.apologies for the inconsistent sound levels.. https://youtu.be/nok514dqlti.
AudeSapere

Vidiot wrote: If it is, it's pretty obvious whose side it's on...
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Justice in Historic Australian investigation says Jehovah's Witnesses child protection policies WORST
by Watchtower-Free in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
historic investigation of jws latest videos are on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxakzq0ity&feature=youtu.be.
AudeSapere

We know that JW practices in dealing with child sex abuse victims are horrible, but did Justice McClennan actually say they are the *worst*??
I am not sure he used that word. I could be wrong but I don't remember him saying 'WORST'.
He repeatedly stated that the JWs have serious flaws and many of those are unique to JWs (not seen in other institutions), but I am not sure that he said 'worst'. I think it is possible that there are one or two institutions that may actually be worse than JWs.
Just hoping to clarify and not over-inflate what was said.
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After Watching Dr. Monica, I Thought It Appropriate To Bring Out This Gem Again.
by Magwitch in
1. social
2. entertainment
to all bodies of elders.

re: spiral binding of shepherding textbook.

dear brothers :.
AudeSapere

Once again, Watchtower rhetoric contradicts Watchtower practice.
The rules *can* be bent (and broken) when it suits the WTS - or when demanded by the Queen of England and her Royal Commission.
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I have two questions about RC Australia
by bobld in
1. jw
2. friends
1.is this rc only about the wbts?.

2. why did the gb/fds asked for all the money to be sent to hq?

ok so they could sent all that money off shore..
AudeSapere

@Moggy Lover - Your comment above about the basis and scope of this Royal Commission is the best I've seen so far.
Thank you! It should have it's own thread and/or be highlighted each day of the hearings so people just joining in understand that this is not a judicial inquest, but rather, an investigative process to understand a societal problem that exists everywhere.
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Dr Monica Applewhite!
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2. scandals
i'm just listening to this so called doctors testimony.

where did the watchtower dig her up from.

her answers have mostly been maybe's and i think!.
AudeSapere

A cursory thought I had while listening to her testimony late last night was that, in theory and as evidenced by their own written material (especially the Awake! articles from the late 80's and early 90's), the WTS has the tools and exceptional communication systems in place that are needed to establish and maintain 'best practices'. They *do* know how to get their adherents' attention. They *could* present the protective information and values from the platform and/or in their WT study articles. They have an army of volunteers who are not afraid to walk up to strangers and present a message that they deem important.
They have everything in place that could actually effect a significant change that would benefit people on a deep and personal level.
They could. But they don't.
Instead they choose to bolster their image at the expense of their substance and their humanity.
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Dr Monica Applewhite!
by username in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
i'm just listening to this so called doctors testimony.

where did the watchtower dig her up from.

her answers have mostly been maybe's and i think!.
AudeSapere

Watchtower rhetoric contradicts Watchtower practice.
Also, Ms Applewhite complete missed the point of the entire commission - although Justice McClennan recognized where this problem originated. She was not given the proper assignment by Watchtower. McClennan stated, "Whoever asked her to give this form of statement was missing the point."
I think the WT is *so* accustomed to 'defending and legally establishing' itself and taking every public opportunity to brag and boast about how much better and faster and blessed they are than everyone else, that it was completely blinded to the clearly stated aim of these hearings.
Maybe it was their collective legal reflex kicking in that caused them to miss the point.
Or maybe they really are just a publishing business, run by arrogant bumbling buffoons, masquerading as a kookie-but-legalistic religion.