AudeSapere

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  CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at the latest co visit something very strange happened.

  during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.

  upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.

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  LevelThePlayingField wrote: Like John Aquila would say, 'let's review, it's a cult!'

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  I agree with the sentiment, but, credit where credit is due... I think that quote is by Ouiblette.
  

  
  
  
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  I could sue the WTBTS

  by shattered_origins in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  ever since my sister gave me an " awakening," i have been somewhat obsessed with the failings of the religion i was born into.

  i am especially outraged at the article i read about how the elders are supposed to deal with accusations of sexual abuse (jwfacts.com/watchtower/paedophelia.php).

  i myself suffered sexual and emotional abuse from a family "friend"/ministerial servant in a neighboring congregation.

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  The link in the OP does not work for me.

  I think this link will go to the intended page:

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/paedophilia.php

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  Welcome to JWN, Shattered_Origins!

  -Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
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  Hartlepool UK JW groomed girl for sex

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/jehovah-s-witness-from-hartlepool-groomed-girl-for-sex-1-7504907.

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  It seems that anyone who knows anything about the extent, timeline and other details about this abuse could aid the case with the information they know. It can give the prosecutors deeper insight or other benefit to see that he is prosecuted to full extent of law.

  Better to give the info to the authorities and let THEM decide if the info is useful than to just say nothing.

  Yes?
  
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  Where are they now? Long, lost JWs

  by Bro-jo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if it has not already been done, i would like to introduce a new topic.

  for me, i would like to know the whereabouts and what's up with some of my former friends and acquaintances.

  to start: some folks i used to be close to at cape cod mass: bob and pam fragosa , dick and valerie davis, charles harutunian (sic).

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  I would love to find Dena Gutekunst Luzell. I knew her in Butler PA. (I think someone told me her parents moved back to Buffalo NY but they did not know where Dena and her 3(?) girls were.

  Also from Butler PA, I lost contact with Dave Mort!mer. He was 6'9" tall and served in Brooklyn Bethel in the mid/late 80's. He was a nice guy and I hope he's doing well.

  Dave's brother John, last I heard was still active in or near Coraopolis (sp?) PA, and was still married to Beth (nee Gutekunst).

  Does anyone know how to find Dena G or Dave M??
  
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  Where are they now? Long, lost JWs

  by Bro-jo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if it has not already been done, i would like to introduce a new topic.

  for me, i would like to know the whereabouts and what's up with some of my former friends and acquaintances.

  to start: some folks i used to be close to at cape cod mass: bob and pam fragosa , dick and valerie davis, charles harutunian (sic).

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  Wow, BroJo... Some of those names are very familiar to me. My (non-jw) grandparents retired to CapeCod in the mid-70's and we used to spend alot of time with them there. And, of course, like good little JW kids, we attended the local Hall whenever we were there.

  Jim and Renata were in the circuit work when we met them. They served our congregation in the early/mid 70's and stayed at our house for 3 weeks - twice a year for two years. My understanding is that they left the circuit work because Renata's computer skills were wanted at Brooklyn. I think she may have been involved somehow with MEPS???
  

  As far as I know, Jim and Renata are still in Brooklyn. (They remained friends with my JW mother.)

  Haratunian and Fragosa sound VERY Familiar. But that was a very long time ago... ;-)
  
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  Hey Simon

  by ShirleyW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm noticing that when i open quite a few of the posts here i notice that the end of the sentences on some lines are breaking improperly.

  like for the word paragraph, it's broken up with the "aph" on the next line for an example.

  it's happening a lot i'm seeing it just about in every post i open, is it just my view and my computer?.

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  Same problem for me. I use firefox.
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  My Mom Is Dying

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to say that my dear 89 year old mom is terminally ill and will soon pass.

  she is on morphine and hanging on.

  she has been a devout witness for about 60 years and a wonderful mother.

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  I'm so sorry. She knows you loved her. My thoughts are with you.

  -Aude.
  
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  Update on Royal Commission - "Child sex abuse inquiry hears 4000th testimony"

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  newcastle heraldchild sex abuse inquiry hears 4000th testimonyby joanne mccarthy sept. 10, 2015, 10:30 p.mthe royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse held its 4000th private hearing in a jail in august as britain followed australias lead in tackling child sexual abuse.the royal commission heard evidence on august 19 from a prisoner who had been sexually abused as a child.in britain, the head of its newly established independent inquiry into child sexual abuse praised the remarkable response to the australian commission.in a speech to australian church leaders on thursday, royal commissioner justice peter mcclellan said he was pleased the british inquiry would closely follow successful australian arrangements.more than 1500 people were waiting for a private hearing and about 40 people a week requested a private hearing, justice mcclellan said.the royal commission has received 16,361 allegations involving 3566 institutions since it was established in november 2012 following the newcastle heralds shine the light campaign for a royal commission into historic child sexual abuse.more than 7000 allegations relate to religious institutions, with 4418 against the catholic church, and more than 3600 against government institutions.allegations against other churches are: anglican, 871; uniting church, 411; presbyterian, 123; methodist, 69; salvation army, 519; jehovahs witnesses, 137; jewish, 80; baptist, 59; seventh day adventist, 56; australian christian churches, 50; lutheran, 32; brethren, 30; mormon, 18; coptic orthodox, 4; and greek orthodox, 2.justice mcclellan said the royal commission had referred 727 matters to police to investigate with a view to prosecuting alleged offenders.in the past few weeks, the royal commission had reported to the federal government on a national redress scheme for victims of abuse.it was clear that time limits presented a considerable, and sometimes an insurmountable, burden for survivors wishing to commence civil proceedings against child sex offenders and institutions, he said.the royal commission should also mark the end of the societal norm that children should be seen but not heard, he said.when the required silence of the child was accompanied by an unquestioning belief by adults in the integrity of the carer ... the power imbalance was entrenched to the inevitable detriment of many children, justice mcclellan said.we must ensure that in the future the institution does not silence the child.

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  Marking for later.
  
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  Getting ready to visit the San Diego area......Any suggestions?

  by drewcoul in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my son is getting ready to move to hawaii.

  we are driving from indianapolis to san diego next week so that they can ship his car from the west coast and save about a thousand dollars versus shipping it from here.

  i am only going to be there for a few days, thursday through sunday and would like some suggestions of what to do while i'm there.

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  I'm about 3 or 4 hours away and have to work Friday and Saturday next week. Otherwise, I'd love to get a drink with you two.

  What time are you leaving on Sunday (Sept 20)?
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  Conditioned to fail

  by Jordandemm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just want to say hi and a big thank you to all that post in this site.

  it has been extremely tough waking up as a born.

  but in slowly removing any doubts about leaving this man made religion.

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  I just remembered another avenue for (re-)building social circles...

  #6. Get in contact with non-jw family members and former school classmates. Even the ones you previously snubbed. Maybe ESPECIALLY those people. If local, invite them 1-by-1 to coffee and apologize to them. Tell them you want to get to know them better. Maybe even make a list - the longer, the better - and just start reaching out to them. Their responses might surprise you. Hopefully for the good~!!

  IMPORTANT: Remember that if you are trying to fade from JWs, use extreme caution on Facebook and other social media.