AudeSapere

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  My parents found out

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. friends

  so in my last post i talked about how i had told my younger siblings how i didn't plan to get baptized or ever be a witness.

  i thought i could trust them but i guess i was wrong, they're just kids after all.

  my oldest brother (who's 11) told on me today.

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  AudeSapere

  Just because someone is 'out' of the JW org, does not in and of itself make them someone you should trust.
  

  We know little about you and even less about your aunt.

  I think that Zeb and Giles Gray and jp1692 and other posters made some wonderful points.

  Respect your parents. Play nice with your family. Get a job and save as much money as you possibly can. Get an education. Don't get baptized. Time is on your side. Use it to your advantage. An education now will be the BEST investment of your time.
  
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  Reunited With My Brother

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my little brother on the left exited the cult after 29 years.. me in the middle.. my older brother on the right stopped his bible study after discovering ttatton youtube videos.. never lose hope guys!.

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  How great is that! What a lovely photo.
  
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  What is behind your choice of forum user name?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

  there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

  i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

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  AudeSapere

  My username is a latin term meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself.
  
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  Far and away the best video I have seen explaining cults

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this 5 minute ted video perfectly explains what a cult it.

  it does not mention jws, but perfectly aligns with them.

  it is put in a manner that would make some understand why jws are considered a cult.

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  AudeSapere

  Good find. Thanks!
  
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  Putin presents the Order of Parental Glory to a Russian Jehovah's Witness family

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54643.

  presenting the order of parental gloryon the eve of international children’s day, vladimir putin presented the order of parental glory to parents of large families.

  the recipients included families from astrakhan and yaroslavl regions, the republics of karelia, buryatia, north ossetia-alania, perm and primorye territories, and khanty-mansi autonomous area – yugra.the order of parental glory was established by a presidential executive order signed in may 2008 and is awarded to parents (or adoptive parents) raising 7 or more children and ensuring due care for their health, education, and physical, spiritual and moral development.

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  AudeSapere

  Two different families are pictured in this thread. The one by Freelikeabird is not the same family as in the OP.

  Which is the JW family?

  And WELCOME, Freelikeabird! Nice to have you join us.

  -Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
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  Is there any evidence that the WTS stated the 20th century would be the last?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know that other early dates are well documented leading up to 1975. it did seemed that the wts learned to stop setting dates, but i seem to recall talk about the 20th century will certainly be the last according to god's perfect timing.

  i can't recall specifically where i heard such blatant rhetoric though.. anyone?

  bueller?

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  AudeSapere

  See the article about 1975 on jwfacts.com for quotes, photos and recordings about the WTS proclamations regarding 1975.
  
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  Is there any evidence that the WTS stated the 20th century would be the last?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know that other early dates are well documented leading up to 1975. it did seemed that the wts learned to stop setting dates, but i seem to recall talk about the 20th century will certainly be the last according to god's perfect timing.

  i can't recall specifically where i heard such blatant rhetoric though.. anyone?

  bueller?

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  AudeSapere

  I don't recall the WTS *ever* saying time would end.

  They did very strongly imply that 'the end of this wicked system of things' would end in 1975.

  JWs have long believed that the earth itself would continue on indefinitely and life on earth would never end. Just the wicked people would be destroyed, but not the earth or dates and time.
  
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  We do sound like a cult

  by notalone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "we do sound like a cult..." so in the last few conversations i have had with my still deeply in friend she has mentioned this a couple times when lamenting things that don't seem right.

  she has a relative that left and is telling everyone jw's are a cult.

  she is very defensive and deeply disturbed by this accusation.

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  AudeSapere

  JWs have been trained on how to respond/react to the suggestion that they are a 'Cult'.

  After being out for many years, I was still defending them against this label.

  Then, on a late night radio talk show, I heard the host refer to Jehovah's Witnesses as a very high-control group. It struck me as odd labeling, but it fit. The more I thought about it, the more it fit.

  Cult is a trigger word for JW's. I think using the phrase 'high-control group' is a good way to avoid the JW trained defense response when you want someone to start realizing they are in a cult.

  From 'high-control group' to 'cult' is a very short step.
  
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  How ballroom dancing helped our exit

  by Finally Left in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just wanted to say hello and thank you for all of your comments.

  when i finally figured out this was not the truth it was nice to know i wasn't the only one - it was a surprise to learn how many there are.

  february was my last month of service after 43 active years.

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  AudeSapere

  Wonderful introduction. Thank you for sharing this with us.

  -Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
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  Southern California USA Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses On High Alert

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers and rank & file are stressed out over an ex-jw (kevin) who has visited nearly 20 congregations (orange county) and has high-jacked the opening prayers and done some effective witnessing before he is escorted to the back door.

  and everything is caught on video!.

  kevin is also visiting numerous jw cart locations from the los angeles area to orange county and giving a most effective wiitness at each location and they're all on video.

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  AudeSapere

  I shudder when I see things like this. But I was curious and watched a few videos. There may be some effect to some in the Halls. Time will tell.

  Still, it is extremely disrespectful to take over a meeting. That alone makes ex-JWs seem unstable.

  I *do* think the idea of setting up a spot adjacent to JW carts could be effective.

  He covered a LOT of ground. Even up to Ventura, 3rd Street Promenade in SantaMonica and down to SanDiego.

  The man DOES get around...!