AudeSapere

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  Hello I’ve just discovered that my religion is false just

  by Chickenlips in

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  just wanted to say hey.

  i’m in australia.

  i’ve just woken up… i’m disfellowshipped and finding it hard without family although i do have one sister who isn’t interested in the truth, so that’s good… at least i can talk to her.

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  AudeSapere

  Oops!! I just re-read the OP.

  Australia is a long commute to California.

  The Zoom meet-up can still be a good option.

  And the other info might help someone else.

  Or you might want to plan a vacation to California next year. LOL
  

  Aude
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  Hello I’ve just discovered that my religion is false just

  by Chickenlips in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wanted to say hey.

  i’m in australia.

  i’ve just woken up… i’m disfellowshipped and finding it hard without family although i do have one sister who isn’t interested in the truth, so that’s good… at least i can talk to her.

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  AudeSapere

  Hi ChickenLips -

  Welcome. It's nice to have you join us and even nicer that you told us a little about your current situation.

  Look around a bit. There is a wealth of information on this site.

  For other online groups, have you looked at MeetUp.com?

  There might be something near you and in-person is better than online.

  If you are in SoCal, there is an Interfaithless Beach Party next weekend (ex-Mormons, ex-JW's, ex-Muslims) all sorts of people who have been isolated from family and lifelong friends because they no longer believe the doctrines they were taught.

  For online (and occasional in-person) here is a link to a LosAngeles group that is actually attended by people from all over: Los Angeles Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses Meetup (Los Angeles, CA) | Meetup

  If you feel comfortable telling your general location, you can start a new post and see if there is anyone who might want to meet for coffee. It's been done alot.

  Each summer, a group of us meet in South Lake Tahoe, CA for weekend camping (or cabin-ing) trip. Our next Tahoe-fest is July 2023.

  Looking forward to hearing more from you.

  Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  AudeSapere

  Here is a JLE quote in the thread I linked above:

  If anyone else wants to get something started in the meantime, they should do it. There's no reason why there can't be more than one "station." The more the merrier!
  Cedars

  Hmmm

  Seems some of the merriment turned into misery.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  AudeSapere

  I just found this old thread from Mon Jan 21, 2013.

  Looks like it's from after AWAA inception and at (or very near) the very beginning of the planning stage of 'The John Cedars Channel' / 'The Lloyd Evans Channel':

  John Cedars Starting A Cult-Free Europe Radio? (jehovahs-witness.com)

  Someone suggested it; Lloyd agreed it was a good idea and started outlining a few specific logistical points.

  Aude
  
  
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  Movies that used the term Jehovah Watchtower or Witnesses!

  by Witness 007 in

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  indiana jones 3...we had elders going to this movie.

  life of brian stoning people who say jehovah...so funny!

  even "supergirl" where someone knocks on the door of the secret hideout and the villain says "if that's those damn jehovahs witnesses again!

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  Confessions of a Teenage Jesus Jerk - movie written by a former JW. Good watch!

  LandShark on SNL

  Aude
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  AudeSapere

  @Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  Oops! A few posts back I prefaced my comment with @vivienne.

  I meant to address that comment to LMSA.

  Apologies for the mis-direct.

  Aude
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  An aspect of dealing with my elderly, PIMI, Father

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for a bit of back ground.

  i’m a full blown pomo apostate.

  nothing would please me more to see wt burn to the ground.

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  The only way to win this game with active family is to not play the game.

  I think you've done great!

  Not everyone needs to know all of our own feelings and opinions.

  Congrats on keeping the family affection door open with your PIMI dad.

  Aude
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  AudeSapere

  @Vivienne -

  Regarding your proposed chapter list (page 463 of this thread)...

  I suggest adding an intro/background chapter with details found on JWN.

  On JWN, JLE describes his ambition to create a cohesive community for all xJW's with him (at the time know as '(John)Cedars) as the lead. Then JLE completely botched the AAWA launch project with deception (ie: using an alias to form an actual, legal US corporation) and excessive control.

  [Of significant note: Barbara Anderson, LadyLee/LeeMarsh, Paul Grundy and many others were initial strong supporters of and contributors to AAWA. Which quickly fizzled under Lloyd's 'leadership'.]

  Laying out the origin-story of JLE's 'activism' will give clearer context to all the shenanigans we've seen play out on between Lloyd and so many other xJW YouTube content producers. All culminating in what has been a train-wreck of a year for JLE/JohnCedars in 2022.

  Aude
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  Elder Arrangement

  by vienne in

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  2. beliefs

  hi everyone, (including the person who down votes all of my posts).

  as some of you know, i'm working toward my master's degree.

  comments from those associated when the elder arrangement was introduced would help me with a research paper.. what was the reaction among adherents?

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  AudeSapere

  Which elder arrangement are your referring to?

  Prior to 1972 or 1973 there was a 'Congregation Servant' (I think). It was just one man overseeing everything in a congregation.

  In 1972 or 1973 an arrangement was created for each cong to have a 'body of elders' rotate thru 5 different roles in congregation oversight (Presiding Overseer, Service Overseer, Secretary, Theocratic School Overseer and Literature Overseer).

  The most recent change that I know of involved appointment of a CoBE (Coordinator of the Body of Elders) but that happened LONG after I left the org and I do not know how or why that works.

  I do know that shortly after the CoBE arrangement, there seemed to be a deletion of elders who had served for a very, very long time. But I do not know if/how the CoBE thing specifically had anything to do with the deletions and purges.
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  I made a Website to examine the scriptures/words usage in every JW publication since 1950/1970

  by ComingOutaMyCage in

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  2. bible

  hi everyone!i'm new here, but have been active on the reddit r\exjw community.

  i have just published a website where i analysed the last 50-70 years worth of watchtowers, awake, books, brochures, and kingdom ministries/work books.. i have collected all the data and published it at the link below.

  you can also see below an example of genesis.

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  AudeSapere

  Hi Coming Outa My Cage.

  Welcome to JWN! It's nice to have you join us.

  I may have 'met' you once or twice online for an xjw meetup (based out of LosAngeles) but open to xjw's anywhere.

  Thanks for posting this resource.

  AudeSapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)