Posts by AudeSapere

They went over several things. I knew I wasn't going to convince them to change their mind so had nothing to lose. I could g odown guns blazing. I kicked large holes in several doctrines and told things like they were, everytime they swiftly switched onto something else. I told them how angry I was about missing so much time with my father only to see the bullshit they had written on their website about ex-members not being shunned and not breaking family ties. The newbie wannabe elder made a glib comment that if it offended me, I should just not read it.

I showed then quotes from their own literature to back up everything I said which they just dismissed. Finally, they got onto what really mattered to them ... my website.

It was clear that this was *the* biggest factor in the whole affair. They wanted to know if I'd be willing to take it down and hinted that this whole affair could probably be forgotten about if I did. They wanted to know how many people visited the site. I leaned forward in my chair and said "about 16,000 a week" (it's gone up a bit since then!) and then added "that's more than you get at a district convention once a year isn't it?". I really like that 'seething elder look'.

The newbie one made one of his rare interruptions saying that they didn't like some of the things that were on the site (I bet!) so I got in his face and repeated his own words back to him from earlier: "well if it offends you, simply don't read it then".

He wasn't threated with legal action. He was threatened with Disfellowshipping. In context, the above conversation took place during the hearing to Appeal his Disfellowshipping that happened because he refused to meet with the elders at the KH for 'a chat'.

Maybe not quite what the OP was looking and asking for, but, asided from Quotes' website, it's what comes to mind.

-Aude.

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Has the wtbts threatened this site?

by man in black in

i have read postings once in a while talking about how the jw org.

told this site to take certain posts, or files down otherwise they would press charges.

have they really done this, or is what i read just a rumor ?.

AudeSapere

In Simon's story(My Life and How JWD Came to Be), he tells about being called into a JC and being asked to take it down.

I will look for the link and quote in a few minutes.

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Elpiro or any Sincere comments welcome by an active JW regarding their beleifs

by Butterflyleia85 in

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elpiro.

this is sorta directed to you as asking rather then telling... i am studying the bible and go to many teachers/sources of the bible... (my sins are being paid for and thus my credit as a christian in no way is held high enough to make claims of im right or your wrong in the eyes of a jw, but im still being humble and live now according to gods standards with my study in the bible and christian believes, so be open minded to the facts of my credit to your idea of standards) my views are expressed below thru use of the bible regarding the comment you made on this thread.... .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/204837/1/if-you-could-ask-one-question-to-an-active-jw-to-get-them-to-open-their-mind-about-their-beliefs-what-would-it-be.

AudeSapere

I guess I should have left active JW out

You might be able to start anew thread stating just that and then cut and paste a link to this thread.

Maybe that will help.

-Aude.

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Elpiro or any Sincere comments welcome by an active JW regarding their beleifs

by Butterflyleia85 in

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elpiro.

this is sorta directed to you as asking rather then telling... i am studying the bible and go to many teachers/sources of the bible... (my sins are being paid for and thus my credit as a christian in no way is held high enough to make claims of im right or your wrong in the eyes of a jw, but im still being humble and live now according to gods standards with my study in the bible and christian believes, so be open minded to the facts of my credit to your idea of standards) my views are expressed below thru use of the bible regarding the comment you made on this thread.... .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/204837/1/if-you-could-ask-one-question-to-an-active-jw-to-get-them-to-open-their-mind-about-their-beliefs-what-would-it-be.

AudeSapere

It's not because I don't believe its teachings, although I certainly do not, but because the Society crosses that line in the sand.

Nicely put. I agree and like the succinctness of your words that I plan to use them next time I have discussion with someone about the WTS.

Hopefully you don't mind me plagerizing them...?

-Aude.

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Turning 64 today.

by Terry in

i'm just uglier and not smarter.

sigh..

AudeSapere

Missed this yesterday.

Happy Birthday, Terry!

Had we known, we could have thrown a little 'fest in your honor. Maybe should get started planning one for 65...?

-Aude.

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little cantleave wants to say hi

by nugget in

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my son wants to say hi to everyone on the forum.

as one of the main drivers to us exiting the cult he is very excited about never going to a meeting again.. if i knew how to load pictures i would let you see his plan for christmas lights next year.

apparently we are having a sleigh with reigndeers.

AudeSapere

What a cutie pie!

<==== This is my pic but you can't really see my face.

-Aude.

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Repost: My Two Week Consulting Trip to Bethel

by Hunyadi in

since half of them ended up at my house on friday and saturday nights i was given a very shining report card.

he then told me that he would knock on my door bright and early in the morning to take me to breakfast with him and his wife.

a couple of them told they enjoy the articles i write in the art magazines and they were really happy to meet me.

AudeSapere

Still one of my favorites.

Dave - Haven't seen you here for a long time but I think you may lurk once in while. Hope you are doing better and having fun. Did you ever write the follow-up? Many of us would love to hear it.

And if you haven't written it yet but would prefer to just verbally record it, I would volunteer to do the transcription.

-Aude.

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Does The "Active Bethelite Sixscreens" Thread Help You Recognize The Watchtower Organization Is "Spying" On You?

by minimus in

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let me state that these sensational types of threads are counter-productive, in my humble opinion.

the whole "spying" thing and the cameras and secret recordings in shower stalls and toilets is nutty!.

do these threads help you to see how the organization is wrong?.

AudeSapere

When they pop up I may take a glance - especially when it hits 10 pages.

But they do not inspire me to anything but a good eye roll and heavy sigh.

While I have no doubt that some Bethelites monitor or watch or even post here, the sensationalistic threads just make me think that the person reporting the story is a bit 'off'. I get an image of rabid, foaming apostate. Not a good image and definitely not credible.

-Aude.

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Elders Will Be Notified & WILL FIND YOU in the Hospital

by Aude_Sapere in

don't wait.

update your advance medical directives before you find yourself in my situation.... .

my left arm was feeling 'odd' last friday morning as i was getting dressed for work.

AudeSapere

bttt - because it's a good reminder.

Especially with all the newbies who may not have thought of this.

-Aude.