AudeSapere

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  ...Say hello to an Old Friend of Mine..."Hiritoka"...

  by OUTLAW in

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  say hello to an old friend of mine..."hiritoka".... .

  we have an old board member back..some of you knew him as japanboy... he is now hiritoka... he is an old friend of mine..we knew each other when we were kids... .

  have you ever wanted to ask a member of the wbt$ governing body`s family a question?...

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  AudeSapere

  I remember JapanBoy. Welcome back!

  -Aude.
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  Watchtower -

  by jwfacts in

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  July 15th WT out - Coming out Swinging at Apostates Hard

  by LostGeneration in

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  this is one of the most aggressive watchtowers i think i have ever read.. four study articles on not "following the crowd" not following unrealities(page 13) not following false teachers, meaning apostates of course(p 15).

  avoiding false teachers means "refusing to read their literature, watch tv programs that feature them, examine their web sites, or add comments to their blogs.

  (para 7, pg 16).

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  The Disfellowshipping Arrangement is Total Double-Speak

  by Pika_Chu in

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  i am livid right now, so please understand i'm venting, and i don't mean to sound like a troll.

  i just found out about the "simplified" wt and the koolaid edition reinforcing shunning.

  this is really freaking me out, but, anyway, i just had an epiphany.

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  marking for later (also ref the July 15, 2011 article on DF Family threads)
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  Yet another July 15th 2011 WT thread...use caution--deconstruction at work

  by sd-7 in

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  i figured i'd start off by just examining the language used in the july 15th, 2011 watchtower, page 15-16, paragraphs 4-7.. apostates are like:.

  1. ravenous wolves.

  9. their own ideas.

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  My daughter asked me why we don't go to meetings

  by JWinprotest in

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  last night, completely out of the blue, my 6 year old daughter, asked my wife and i why we don't go to meetings anymore.

  she actually said that she misses them.

  i know, where have i failed!!!.

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  I don't think that you need to get into the 'cult' conversation at this point - if ever. *Maybe* when they are in their teens and you can talk about some other 'high-control-group' type religion. I would avoid the word 'cult' if you still have relatives 'in'.

  Regarding the why question. Saying that work is more important than god might be teaching wrong priorities.

  I think a better approach may be to do like nugget (and others in various JWN threads) suggested. Tell them that after careful thought and prayer, you are feeling uncomfortable with some things that are being done or taught. You think that maybe you were wrong to not celebrate the gift of life - and the gift of your children - so now you want to celebrate things like birthdays because you are so happy. You also want to spend more time appreciating nature, other people, etc.

  Admitting you were wrong and have now made a change, is a powerful example to your kids.

  I'm missing a key idea that someone else in your position had a few years ago. Hopefully others will give some more insight and suggestions.

  If she is missing a few friends, maybe encourage her to contact them. (Might not work if you are fading, as 6-year-olds are likely to blurt out things that you'd rather keep quiet - and you don't want her to have to censor herself too carefully.) Also, I fully agree with Blondie - help her keep making new friends and learning new skills and exploring new talents. Maybe do a little of this before contacting the JW friends.

  Good job!

  -Aude.
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  re-enforcing the shunning of immediate family - WT 7-15-11

  by undercover in

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  july 15th wt study edition (regular dumb edition, not the dumber one).

  god's rest - have you entered into it?.

  subheading, when someone we love leaves jehovah.

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  Marking - to read later.

  *sigh*
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  "after all the JWs pioneered bloodless surgery”

  by hopelesslystained in

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  this is what my elderete (sp?

  ) aunt, wife to presiding elder uncle, stated to all the family and medical staff present as my dad was being wheeled in for hip surgery.

  i have been out for 30+ years.

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  AudeSapere

  According to Wikipedia - let the reader use discernment -

  Bloodless surgery is a term that was popularized at the beginning of the 20th century by the practice of an internationally famous orthopedic surgeon, Adolf Lorenz, who was known as "the bloodless surgeon of Vienna."

  The above wiki quote references early 1900's as the time period of innovation in 'bloodless' surgery, however, it wasn't until the 1950's or 1960's that the witnesses made their stand against blood.

  So who really was the 'pioneer' here.

  Also, while the Jehovah's Witnesses may have advanced the cause, they are not the pioneers as it's doubtful that they did the actual scientific research. They took a stand, and humanitarian physician scientists took up the cause to find an effective way to treat the challenging patient.

  The physicians who took on the challenge are the ones who pioneered the practice.

  -Aude.
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  Can I Just Say (Total

  by AGuest in

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  I'm not sure. *Can* you say it? Doesn't seem like you can even *type* it at this point...~!!
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  Proof I work at Bethel with Johnnie!

  by lovelylil in

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  AudeSapere

  Funny from soo many angles!!

  -Aude.