Posts by AudeSapere

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Dr Monica Applewhite!
by username in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
i'm just listening to this so called doctors testimony.

where did the watchtower dig her up from.

her answers have mostly been maybe's and i think!.
AudeSapere

Watchtower rhetoric contradicts Watchtower practice.
Also, Ms Applewhite complete missed the point of the entire commission - although Justice McClennan recognized where this problem originated. She was not given the proper assignment by Watchtower. McClennan stated, "Whoever asked her to give this form of statement was missing the point."
I think the WT is *so* accustomed to 'defending and legally establishing' itself and taking every public opportunity to brag and boast about how much better and faster and blessed they are than everyone else, that it was completely blinded to the clearly stated aim of these hearings.
Maybe it was their collective legal reflex kicking in that caused them to miss the point.
Or maybe they really are just a publishing business, run by arrogant bumbling buffoons, masquerading as a kookie-but-legalistic religion.
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Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!
by LostGeneration in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

anyone know who this monty baker is?

i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
AudeSapere

Mr McClennen stated: Whoever asked her to give this form of statement was missing the point.
LOL!! Great summation to her 'expert' testimony.
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Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!
by LostGeneration in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

anyone know who this monty baker is?

i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
AudeSapere

Oh my! She didn't know how many issues of the magazine is published each year. She guessed it was 4 per year. LOL
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Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!
by LostGeneration in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

anyone know who this monty baker is?

i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
AudeSapere

They're Back!
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Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!
by LostGeneration in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

anyone know who this monty baker is?

i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
AudeSapere

@LostGen & @MadSweeney - Thanks!
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Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!
by LostGeneration in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

anyone know who this monty baker is?

i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
AudeSapere

I can't get the live feed. Are they on break??
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A few facts to ponder
by Nitty-Gritty in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
i have been in correspondence recently with silentambs and a few interesting things have been highlighted.

some of you may know, that bill bowen has twice tried to get the fbi involved in investigating child molestation issues in the jws org.

this is what he said to me, i quote: we have reported to the fbi on two occasions and were rebuffed due to them not wishing to get involved with a religion.
AudeSapere

Nitty-Gritty wrote: "...Also, sorry to disappoint you, but most “worldly” people are not going to be “put off” by the JWs because of child molestation issues as they know this is prevalent in all society..."
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I agree with you on this point. Only the most naive person will believe they are completely immune to exposure to abusers and molesters.
The most off-putting part, however, is the absolute lack of compassion and the further victimization on the child by those in charge. Add to that the encouragement to *NOT* report the incident(s) to the police and you have a horrible psychological environment in a (church) community that is supposed to provide shelter and refuge on AT LEAST a spiritual/psychological/emotional level.
In other words, the way abuse reports are currently handled by the elders AFTER the report of abuse, heaps further abuse and then added isolation on the person who needs validation the most. This failure to respect and help 'heal' the victim in a *meaningful* way, is what is 'off-putting' to most rational people.
The 'handling' procedures and processes MUST change.
As with most traumatic events in people's lives, how the trauma is addressed AFTER the fact is often more impactful on an individual's future life and development than the actual trauma itself.
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What would a JW do if their none JW neighbor molested their 9 year old daughter???
by James Mixon in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
have anyone heard of a case where they (jw) turn the person over.

to the law???

?.
AudeSapere

Before we were witnesses, I was molested by a non-JW neighbor. (Decades later I found out the my younger brother was also molested by the same neighbor.)
I recall at the time that I *did* report the incident to my parent(s).
My parent(s)'s reaction at the time: He continued to be our babysitter.
When confronted in therapy 30 years after the incident, my parent(s)'s response: "Aude is just making it up. She's just looking for attention. And besides, I spoke with the guy's mother and she said he would never do anything like that."
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It may have just been a typical reaction/denial (or not) for the time period in which it occurred, but I'm not really sure. Some JWs prefer to stick their head in the sand and pretend everything is fine and they are great protectors and there is nothing they can do about anything anyway. Some non-JWs feel the same way.
Others act like grown-ups and take charge and responsibility for themselves and watch out for their children's best interest.
I would hope that modern-day (!!) JWs would not hesitate to action and would file a police report immediately whether the offender is JW or not.
I try to keep hoping that (all) people will due the right thing. Sadly, I am sometimes disappointed.
-Aude.
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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders
by stuckinamovement in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf
AudeSapere

@BoC: God Bless the RC??
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Invisibility - Not Just For Jesus, finds the Royal Commission.
by alfred newman in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
so shocking!

the u.k. seems a bit on fire over the scandal there too.

people are upset about what the children have had done to them.
AudeSapere

@Alfred - There are many links at the end of your OP. Can you please tell me which link provides the text you posted? I would like to see where it came from.
Or... Is this letter from some other source??? Please advise.
Thank you in advance.