august.
mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
C0ntr013r wrote: I wonder how much impact this RC will have on a normal dub... Probably not very much
Maybe not on your average JW, but I for one feel MUCH more educated and confident in refuting JW *cough, cough* logic *cough cough*.
And the lack of common insight and compassion are clearly noted to be sorely lacking within 'Jehovah's organization'.
No surprise to us, but good to see it spotlighted on an international stage.
i just sent this email to angus stewart:.
i hope this email finds you well.
i would like to say thank you for your work on the royal commission, particularly in your handling of the jehovah's witnesses elders and experts during questioning.
Viviane wrote: "...I did leave out the part about him being so hot during the proceedings it made me want to high five his private bits with mine, though."
LOL!!
http://news.yahoo.com/zimbabwe-accuses-2nd-american-illegally-hunting-lion-060415307.html#.
harare, zimbabwe (ap) zimbabwe has accused a pennsylvania doctor of illegally killing a lion in april, as it seeks to extradite a minnesota dentist who killed a well-known lion named cecil in july.. jan casimir seski of murrysville, pennsylvania, shot the lion with a bow and arrow near hwange national park, without approval and on land where it was not allowed, said zimbabwe's national parks and wildlife management authority.. landowner headman sibanda was arrested and is assisting police, it said.. seski, a gynecological oncologist who directs the center for bloodless medicine and surgery at allegheny general hospital in pittsburgh, is a big-game hunter according to safari outfitters and bow-hunting sites.
kill shots on the sites identify "dr. jan seski" as the man standing next to slain animals including elephants, a hippo, an ostrich and antelopes such as an impala, a kudu, and a nyala.. seski did not respond to messages left by the associated press at his home and with an answering service for his medical practice.
http://news.yahoo.com/zimbabwe-accuses-2nd-american-illegally-hunting-lion-060415307.html#
HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) — Zimbabwe has accused a Pennsylvania doctor of illegally killing a lion in April, as it seeks to extradite a Minnesota dentist who killed a well-known lion named Cecil in July.
Jan Casimir Seski of Murrysville, Pennsylvania, shot the lion with a bow and arrow near Hwange National Park, without approval and on land where it was not allowed, said Zimbabwe's National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority.
Landowner Headman Sibanda was arrested and is assisting police, it said.
Seski, a gynecological oncologist who directs the Center for Bloodless Medicine and Surgery at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh, is a big-game hunter according to safari outfitters and bow-hunting sites. Kill shots on the sites identify "Dr. Jan Seski" as the man standing next to slain animals including elephants, a hippo, an ostrich and antelopes such as an impala, a kudu, and a nyala.
Seski did not respond to messages left by The Associated Press at his home and with an answering service for his medical practice. The AP also called and knocked on the door at Seski's house, which is set back among some woods outside Pittsburgh.
Zimbabwe's wildlife authority has suspended the hunting of lions, leopards and elephants in the Hwange area, and said Saturday that bow and arrow hunts can be approved only by the head of the wildlife authority.
Two other illegal lion hunts also were recorded last year in Zimbabwe, said Geoffrey Matipano, conservation director for the wildlife authority. He did not provide details on those cases.
Zimbabwe National Parks spokeswoman Caroline Washaya Moyo said Seski provided his name and other identifying information for a government database when he came for the hunt.
"When hunters come into the country they fill a document stating their personal details, the amount they have paid for the hunt, the number of animals to be hunted, the species to be hunted and the area and period where that hunt is supposed to take place," she said. "The American conducted his hunt in an area where lion hunting is outlawed. The landowner who helped him with the hunt also did not have a have a quota for lion hunting."
Meanwhile, Zimbabwean authorities have said they will seek the extradition of Minnesota dentist Walter James Palmer, alleging he lacked authorization to kill "Cecil." The lion was lured out of Hwange park, wounded with a bow and arrow and then tracked down and shot, conservationists said.
Palmer said he relied on professional guides to ensure his hunt was legal. Two Zimbabwean citizens were arrested and face charges.
An image on the Melorani Safaris Facebook page, since taken down, showed Seski posing with the body of a small antelope in 2012, with a caption saying it was killed two days after he shot it with an arrow. Other captions described how his arrows penetrated organs and split bones.
"This Zimbabwe elephant is the sixth African elephant shot by Dr. Jan Seski," Alaska Bowhunting Supply claims in a caption dated September 2014, below a picture of the doctor posing above the dead beast's trunk and tusks.
"The arrow was shot quartering into the elephant, penetrated a rib and one lung, lacerated the heart and liver, and was recovered in the gut. The elephant went a short distance and died. With results like this, no wonder Jan is a firm supporter of our Ultra-Magnum Arrow System."
Alaska Bowhunting Supply didn't immediately respond Sunday to a request for comment, and it wasn't clear how the hunting supply company learned such details about the hunt.
Images of the doctor wearing camouflage and holding high-powered bows match those on Seski's website, where he wears a suit or hospital scrubs. His address and other identifying information given by authorities in Zimbabwe matches those of U.S. medical authorities.
A handful of Seski's neighbors said he mostly keeps to himself and that he'd been buying up the land around his property. Ernest Hahn said Seski put up no-trespassing signs, breaking the rural area's tradition of people feeling free to cross property lines to hunt.
Hahn said Seski can be "quirky," walking around wearing a low-slung pistol "like a gunslinger," for example, but he appreciates that his neighbor is protecting land from development.
"It seemed to me everything he does is aboveboard," Hahn said. "I've never seen him done anything illegal or unsportsmanlike at all."
Seski seemed like a "perfect gentleman" to Stewart Dorrington, who operates Melorani Safaris and owns a game reserve in neighboring South Africa where Seski hunted in 2012.
"He was a great guy," Dorrington said. "Everything he did was perfectly legal and aboveboard and a great help to our conservation efforts."
Dorrington said he converted his cattle ranch into a game reserve in the 1980s. He said funds from trophy hunting of antelope are essential to conserving wildlife.
Dorrington said he received an abusive phone call Sunday; his Facebook page was later closed from view after people began posting threatening comments.
In Washington, U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., announced the "Conserving Ecosystems by Ceasing the Importation of Large (CECIL) Animal Trophies Act," which would expand import bans to species proposed for listing as threatened or endangered, as well as those already listed as endangered.
"The logic is that if you keep killing them, they will become endangered," Menendez spokesman Steven Sandberg said Sunday.
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Contributors include Christopher Torchia in Johannesburg; Kristen De Groot and Ron Todt in Philadelphia and Zach Brendza in Murrysville, Pennsylvania; and Deepti Hajela in New York City.
august.
mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
When asked about head coverings, Monty tried to explain it as best he could after being out for 22 years and intentionally trying to distance him self from the JWs. However, while discussion the concept of women being in 'subjection' to men, he used the word 'subjugation'.
Oh, Monty! We appreciate your candor and your efforts. I think.
august.
mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
Monty followed the request of the Commission to please review the information on the website regarding the purpose of the hearing and to review his own notes and/or try to refresh his memory BEFORE taking the stand.
So far, aside from the victims, he seems to be the ONLY one who has followed the directions!
august.
mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
He says he had the pleasure of meeting BCG just last week.
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Oh!! Angus just asked him for his opinion on why the other elders have not shown up prepared for this very important matter before the commission.
august.
mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
He left on principle due to disagreement with the WT. Ultimately disfellowshipped and JWs who were working for him had to find other employment.
Monty says that he personally was not uncomfortable about the 'shunning' but that it was more uncomfortable for the active JWs who felt they had to keep away from him as he was an apostate.
august.
mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
Monty does not seem to want to be here. And he admits that he has intentionally tried to distance himself from all things JW for the past 22 years.
He says that within his written statement that he could not recall names of many of people involved the cases in question. But upon reviewing the documents presented him from the commission, he, of course, remembered the people and the details have come back to him.
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mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
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Orphan Crow wrote: Whoa...Monty Baker's lawyer questioned Derooroo as to why he didn't read the statements."Was it because they were made by people who were speaking out against the JWs?"
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DeRooy responded: No. Not at all.
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He is a big fat liar.
Sort of.
They (the active elders called upon to make testimony) didn't read ANYONE's statement so, technically, his response is honest.
However, recent WT directives dictate that no lover of Jehovah should listen, read or share reports from ANY person speaking negatively of the organization.
august.
mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
Smiddy's response reminded me where to find the transcripts of each days' testimony. Here is the link to both the live feed (when hearings are in session) AND for previous day's testimony (scroll down): http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney
Thanks Smiddy!
