i know that other early dates are well documented leading up to 1975. it did seemed that the wts learned to stop setting dates, but i seem to recall talk about the 20th century will certainly be the last according to god's perfect timing.
i can't recall specifically where i heard such blatant rhetoric though.. anyone?
bueller?
I don't recall the WTS *ever* saying time would end.
They did very strongly imply that 'the end of this wicked system of things' would end in 1975.
JWs have long believed that the earth itself would continue on indefinitely and life on earth would never end. Just the wicked people would be destroyed, but not the earth or dates and time.
"we do sound like a cult..." so in the last few conversations i have had with my still deeply in friend she has mentioned this a couple times when lamenting things that don't seem right.
she has a relative that left and is telling everyone jw's are a cult.
she is very defensive and deeply disturbed by this accusation.
JWs have been trained on how to respond/react to the suggestion that they are a 'Cult'.
After being out for many years, I was still defending them against this label.
Then, on a late night radio talk show, I heard the host refer to Jehovah's Witnesses as a very high-control group. It struck me as odd labeling, but it fit. The more I thought about it, the more it fit.
Cult is a trigger word for JW's. I think using the phrase 'high-control group' is a good way to avoid the JW trained defense response when you want someone to start realizing they are in a cult.
From 'high-control group' to 'cult' is a very short step.
just wanted to say hello and thank you for all of your comments.
when i finally figured out this was not the truth it was nice to know i wasn't the only one - it was a surprise to learn how many there are.
february was my last month of service after 43 active years.
Wonderful introduction. Thank you for sharing this with us.
-Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers and rank & file are stressed out over an ex-jw (kevin) who has visited nearly 20 congregations (orange county) and has high-jacked the opening prayers and done some effective witnessing before he is escorted to the back door.
and everything is caught on video!.
kevin is also visiting numerous jw cart locations from the los angeles area to orange county and giving a most effective wiitness at each location and they're all on video.
I shudder when I see things like this. But I was curious and watched a few videos. There may be some effect to some in the Halls. Time will tell.
Still, it is extremely disrespectful to take over a meeting. That alone makes ex-JWs seem unstable.
I *do* think the idea of setting up a spot adjacent to JW carts could be effective.
He covered a LOT of ground. Even up to Ventura, 3rd Street Promenade in SantaMonica and down to SanDiego.
The man DOES get around...!
good!.
evil bastard!.
can't link, but quick thinking and acting on the part of mcdonald's employees led to his demise.. sylvia.
i finally decided to join linkedin.
i have been in technology for all my adult life, so i am one of those who don't like to communicate and socialize using technology.
however, i decided to join because i started to feel left out.. i have kept my profile private for the time being.
Very nice. Congrats on making a difference.
Reminds me of a quote:
Forest E. Witcraft
Teacher, Scholar
Link?
after i left the jws, i began to live a normal and mentally healthy life (i'm still working on living a physically healthy one) .
anyway, in 2011, i met the woman of my life and we have been together ever since.
and now we have a beautiful son who will turn 1 in january.
update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.
i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.
- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.
Just saw this news and so sorry to learn of 'Grandma' Grace's passing. I still have Christmas Card from her.
RIP, Mouthy.
-Aude.
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/crime/article39058014.html#1.
church shouldn't have divulged child-porn suspect's alleged confession, attorney says.
elders in the jehovah’s witnesses church violated the confidentiality of steven lindhorst of paso robles when they told police about an alleged confession he made regarding child pornography, according to a defense motion.. .
Damned if they do report, damned if they don't report.
