Posts by AudeSapere

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He went to the meeting today!

by HappyBlessedFree in

so after almost 5 months of not attending meeting, today my husband decided to attend the special talk.

i am sad, frustrated, nervous, but also hopeful that he will see something that he never did before .

lies and manipulation.

AudeSapere

Special Talk? Isn't that usually AFTER the memorial?

Regardless, as KimD said above, maybe he will see things that he never noticed before and get to thinking that something is just not right.

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is it possible to merge old account?

by orange poppy in

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i posted here years ago under another account, but am unable to log in anymore under the old name.

is it possible to merge accounts?

or is it best to just start fresh?.

AudeSapere

A suggest to the OP: Repost this inquiry under either the topic 'Suggestions' or 'Tech Assistance'.

The admins don't necessarily see all posts in 'Friends' but posts in 'Suggestions' or 'Tech Assistance' are specifically for them. You are more likely to get an official response there.

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is it possible to merge old account?

by orange poppy in

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friends

i posted here years ago under another account, but am unable to log in anymore under the old name.

is it possible to merge accounts?

or is it best to just start fresh?.

AudeSapere

I had that same problem, too. I created a new account and mentioned my old account in my bio.

Others have created new accounts with alias's very similar to the original and added '2' to the name or 'un-' to the beginning of the name if the original declared a jw status.

The biggest drawback to me is that I have no way of knowing if someone has messaged me on my original account. A 'merge' could fix that.

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Funeral Fashion

by ThinkerBelle in

i have a funeral to attend for a non jw family member and the jdub family member reminded me that i should not wear black.

for the life of me, i can't recall where this belief came from in jw teachings and i'm born in.

is there something in print or is that just a personal opinion belief?

AudeSapere

snakeface wrote: "i think the main objective is to wear something that shows respect for the deceased..."

In normal funerals/memorials, this would be paramount. But as the OP is discussing a JW funeral, the prime entity being honored is WT/jw.org.

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My face in real life

by blisterfeet in

so after years of being out of the orginization, and using a pseudonym i have put my face out there for the world to see.

the repercussions have been real.

but i am also convicted in my stance.

AudeSapere

Congrats on that brave step!! And you chose a really good channel for your debut. True-Faced (both of them) seem so warm and kind. Every time.

-Aude.

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WATCHTOWER has posted a $40,000,000 bond !

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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watctower has posted a $40,000,000 bond following montana's upholding of the nunez v watchtower verdict of 2018. punitive damages have been upheld, and wt has purchased the bond from travelers insurance (35m+ interest)-montana sc will rule later this year on the appeal.. .

AudeSapere

I wonder if most of WT cash is actually stashed off-shore for 'safety' / obscurity?

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Watchtower can be greatfull they gave Michael Jackson the flick when they did

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking how greatful wt can be that they dfed him when they did.

could you imagine the hammering they would be taking now from the ex-jw community, in light of the recent documentary.

i’m by no means sticking up for them i’m just saying, that’s all..

AudeSapere

Smiddy3 wrote: Was it ever really announced from the platform that MJ was DF ? I must have missed something.

I was in attendance at the Woodland Halls KH (West) when it was announced that Michael Jackson was no longer a JW. I don't remember the exact verbiage but my roommate at the time took out her tape recorder to capture my report of what was said. It was the first time I (we) had heard this generic-type separation announcement.

There was a very brief lead-up to the announcement and I left with the general impression that it was a mutually agreed upon decision. Like both 'you're fired' and 'I quit'. "Let's just say we've parted ways" type of thing.

It was neither officially announced as disassociation nor disfellowshipping. But it was definitely announced.

Since then, all other announcements have had similar language.

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Seven006 ....where is he?

by minimus in

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i haven't heard from dave, also known as seven in a long time.

i sent him a message here a while back and heard nothing.. does anybody know how he is faring?

?.

AudeSapere

This is just so terribly sad. He was such an interesting contributor here and an amazing artist. The last few things I know of him doing was the book for his granddaughter (who is probably a pre-teenager by now and i believe he also did the artwork for the CD that Barbara Anderson released about 10 years ago.

Rest in Peace, Dave. Thank you for sharing your stories and art and making us think.

-AudeSapere.

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Just peeking in for a bit...

by Jidders in

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i rather apprehensively would like to say hello.. i've been raised somewhat in the truth,one of my parents is rather rather strong in the beliefs but could honestly be considered pomi with how active they are and their side of the family comes from a line of witnesses, the other parent was but faded a long time ago.

as such i was taught quite a bit of jw teachings between family and off and on again bible studies.

recently i had a serious emotional break down over a few months after said pomi parent had advised me that they would not attend my wedding should that day come (i also had recieved a text from my bible teacher i hadnt heard from in a year or two giving a scripture) and it sorta all sank on me that my activity over the last few years was not really jw material.

AudeSapere

Jidders - Glad you are still participating in this conversation and VERY glad that you are getting support for anxiety. A professional therapist who understands 'exiting high control groups' may be a very good next step for you to help you feel even better a little quicker.

You wrote: I honestly feel if Jehovah/Yahweh was with them then he's making naked the sins of those holding the reigns but failing to direct the horse, so to speak

I had similar thought when I walked out of the Kingdom Hall one Sunday many years ago. I hung on to that thought for almost 15 years. I thought they were heading down a wrong path and that my staying associated with the org and not say anything was being complicit with their sins. I could not in good conscience silently sit in my seat at the hall. And I could not say anything for fear of 'causing divisions' and retaliation for insubordination. I felt my only option was to step aside and let the org figure out and correct their errors. Only THEN I would consider reactivating myself.

After 15 years (I did not do research and did not talk to anyone because I did not want to stumble anyone with my own doubts), I eventually found other xjws (on Randy Waters' Freeminds site and here on JWN) and came to believe that the JWs are not - and never were - God's chosen org and love does govern them. They do not imitate Jesus' heart.

Love does not motivate JWs.

Fear, obligation, guilt and duty are what motivates most of them.

Fear of displeasing a 'loving' god. Really?

Fear of suffering the wrath of a 'loving' god. Seriously??

587 v 607 = 1914 is not significant in Jehovah's selection of the Bible Students selection of the FDS. They claimed this favored status for themselves. Actually ~~Judge~~ ~~Rutherfraud~~ Rutherford claimed that status for himself.

For what it's worth, these 3 issues were the ones that convinced me that I was wasting my time and life waiting for the org to 'get back on track':

607 / 587

Mexico / Malawi

UN NGO

They never were on the right track. They were not specially chosen by God.

They never would be.

It was time for me to get on with my life. If life really is a gift from God, I need to show appreciation of that life by using my talents and finding ways to both enjoy my life. Sitting in a Kingdom Hall and waiting for the NewSystem was not showing appreciation for *this* life that really exists now. It came to feel more like I was squandering my time and life in a high-control group that was never specially chosen as god's favored people.

I needed to change that.

I did.

And I have not regretted or apologized for creating a better life for myself. I am happy and appreciative for what I have.

-Aude.

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G.B.Are they Manipulative Lying S.O.B.`s / Not Genuine in their Beliefs ?

by smiddy3 in

i raise this question for many reasons really ,thinking back on their past history and how they have responded to past failures .that they explain away as human imperfections.. on the one hand they claim to be gods spokesperson on earth .the only true religion god is using to dispense his truths at the proper time.

and that members of the gb are the f&ds class assigned to do this.. or do they deliberately manipulate witnesses vulnerability about world events ,disasters ,earthquakes etc ,to prey on those fears about the gt /armageddon.. that they are constantly warned about .

and that it is impending.. producing videos that show how jw`s will be persecuted round up and imprisoned simply for being a jw .on a worldwide scale .. the bunker video ?.

AudeSapere

SF wrote: I would not be surprised if big picture questions about truth and the nature of the religion they oversee is mostly crowded out by other concerns.

I think this is true.

I would also add that they are intellectually lazy. And that laziness helps them ignore glaring problems within the org and its doctrines.

The best they can do is 'dumb down' the religion and centralize the message (direct everyone to jw dot org).

That takes much of the burden off the rank and lets them keep their own relatively cushy life.