my uncle oliver passed this past weekend.
he was my step-dad's grandfather's brother.
(does that make him my great or great-great uncle?).
Ravyn,
You spent some time in Perry Ga? I to probably met Otis as well. I was a pioneer living in Eastman Ga. in the late 60's.
I think I gave the sunday talk at almost every small town between Macon and Atlanta at least once or twice. I think we helped tear down an old railroad station for the lumber to enable the Perry congregation to build thier new KH. Not certain it was Perry but somewhere close.
Small world.
Danny
my uncle oliver passed this past weekend.
he was my step-dad's grandfather's brother.
(does that make him my great or great-great uncle?).
Hello Mike,
That was a nice tribute. I understand the sentiments you expressed.
The devout, stout hearted, 'fight em till hell freezes over' jw is truly a dying breed. Most youthful (20-30's) jw have no concept of what men like your uncle experienced.
Sorry you lost your loved one.
Danny
one of the great philosophical conumdrums amongst the vast number of philosophical conumdrums of the watchtower society is this: why would almighty god (or jesus christ) need once earthly, now spiritual "co-rulers" for anyway?
god is not lacking in anything (supposedly).
now, anything means anything, right?
Somewhere an 'inspired' bible writer proclaimed that Jehovah is aware of every 'sparrow that falls from a tree'.
What kind of convaluted backpedeling will jw's do to rectify this little nugget of inspired wisdom? Need I ask?
Danny
one of the great philosophical conumdrums amongst the vast number of philosophical conumdrums of the watchtower society is this: why would almighty god (or jesus christ) need once earthly, now spiritual "co-rulers" for anyway?
god is not lacking in anything (supposedly).
now, anything means anything, right?
Logun,
Your posts are thought provoking and refreshing.
Somehow I think you have already answered the question for yourself.
As for me once I decided that the any attempt at interpreting the bible, is an exercise in futility, then it is very easy to conclude that anyone who say's they know what it means....is totaly deluded.
Trying to ascribe exact meaning to John's revelation, is sophistry in every sense of the word.
None of the seer's of the Wtbs have ever gotten any of it right......guess what they never will.
Danny
those of you that know me well know that i'm not going to say anything or much of anything anymore in this forum.. .
however, i will be offering much of my music instead.
i won't be posting it here anymore.
Alan,
All of the above rhetoric is predicated on one sure solid fact; people can and do get their feelings hurt. Yes I say ‘feelings’ because it is imo the root cause of all this acrimony.
Believe me I know just how sensitive Tj can be. I offended the guy about a year ago with something I said and it still affects our relationship. My slip of the tounge was unintentional and carried no sarcastic word’s of abuse. Yet I realized how hurtful my comments were, and I appologized to Tj. That is the way it should be.
The history between TJ and I, does not any way affect the validity or import of what he is now asserting about ‘cult’ mentality on these discussion boards.
Several months ago all hell broke loose here on jwd regarding comments relating to Silentlambs aka Bill Bowen. There was a siege mentality around here, resulting in many defections from the board, not to mention individuals shunning one another.
All a direct result of critical comments as regards Bill Bowen’s actions, methods, words. There was and still remains two camps, those who defend him almost without question, those who are objective, (ok three camps) and those like myself who have concluded that his attitude, demeanor and methods are not at all laudable. Need I inject that his cause is honorable…..yes I guess I do. Hoping the above does not start a new round of hoopla.
I think you see where this is going. When anyone (Farkel, Norm, JanH, Alan, BB, Ray Franz, James P, etc) who offer’s themselves up on the table of public discourse or written opinion, can not accept or absorb a differing view. But adamantly stand up on a high horse of manufactured indignation, and denounce their so called detractor’s as being MORONIC, STUPID, FOOLS, IMBECILES, fat, ugly, smelly, dipshits, or whatever form of chosen vitriolic ‘put down’ they may choose, they are screaming out the message….’I know best, I know whats good for you, I studied this, I have my facts right, I, I, I have a tract record…so shut up.
If that attitude is not ‘cultlike’ what is?
Yeah I suppose the argument can be made that ‘cult’ may overstate the actual reality……..but perhaps that is needed to get the point across. Apparently from your and other reactions TJ’s analogy was indeed appropriate.
All in all, everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt. No deserves to be attacked or demeaned with vitriol like Farkel has and apparently continues to use. I think this whole exercise proves the validity of this opionion.
Danny
Ps Dave you aint whackin nothing!!!!ya hear?:)
those of you that know me well know that i'm not going to say anything or much of anything anymore in this forum.. .
however, i will be offering much of my music instead.
i won't be posting it here anymore.
Alan and all,
those of you that know me well know that i'm not going to say anything or much of anything anymore in this forum.. .
however, i will be offering much of my music instead.
i won't be posting it here anymore.
Alan,
***Teejay is dead wrong and a liar to boot***
Well excuse me Alan. I simply don't see it that way.
I happen to agree with his analogy of 'cult' in reference to the way certain member's of this board and other's turn a blind eye towards abhorent behaviour's displayed by those he named.
I don't care how much someone has done or will do, in behalf of any good cause.....when that individual consider's himself above the norm....it's time to start knocking the pedestal out.
Do you really believe that TJ thinks there is an organized cult of Farkelites or Normites? HS says he went over the top......to me the analogy worked. It drove home a very real observation about the dynamics of these boards.
Danny
those of you that know me well know that i'm not going to say anything or much of anything anymore in this forum.. .
however, i will be offering much of my music instead.
i won't be posting it here anymore.
Tj,
**** Your repeated reference to Ray as my god was an interesting ploy. One who didn't know you better would have expected more from you. Thankfully, I know you better. It's sad that you couldn't have come with a stronger argument, but that you didn't is not entirely surprising***
I had the very same reaction to Alan's attempt at discrediting your position. A failed attempt imo.
Danny
those of you that know me well know that i'm not going to say anything or much of anything anymore in this forum.. .
however, i will be offering much of my music instead.
i won't be posting it here anymore.
HS,
Maybe I missed something here, but you elude to Farkel not being here to defend himself? Was he deactivated? Has his account been terminiated?
A false premise to your advice and admonition imo.
Tj made some very telling observations about the willingness of other members of this discussion board to confront certain bombastic comentator's, with opposing views. I think he made enough impression on Alan to write a rather lengthy defensive response. In other words he hit a nerve.
Danny
those of you that know me well know that i'm not going to say anything or much of anything anymore in this forum.. .
however, i will be offering much of my music instead.
i won't be posting it here anymore.
Tj,
*** I'm imperfect. Not everything I say or do is brilliant. In that respect, I'm a bit like Farkel wouldn't you say? Just not nearly as disrespectful.***
Pretty much sums up the whole discussion. Farkels first words to me on the net were threatening and very disrespectful.......I handn't been spoken to like that since high school days. From that time forward I was leary of Farkel, no matter the intent, it was how his words affected me.
There is no excuse for anyone to trample on another's 'id' ty siegswife.
Danny
