Posts by jambon1

when pointing out my objections to the jw religion with my wife, i have noticed a worrying trend which even after 3 or 4 years shows no sign of relenting.. after speaking calmly for an hour or so and logically pointing out my objections, my wife starts to put forward outrageous assertations about my points.

for instance, if i am refering to the fact that disfellowshipping is a form of extreem punishment & i mention the terrible effects that being d/f'd can have on people, she will eventually retort with something like "so what you are saying is that we should tolerate paedophiles, rapists & thieves in the organisation then?".

of course, i've never at any point said anything of the sort.. or if i have been overly critical of the amount of control the society wants over peoples lives, she would reply "so what you are saying is that we should all just go out & do what we want, get drunk & live an immoral life?

jambon1

When pointing out my objections to the JW religion with my wife, I have noticed a worrying trend which even after 3 or 4 years shows no sign of relenting.

After speaking calmly for an hour or so and logically pointing out my objections, my wife starts to put forward outrageous assertations about my points. For instance, if I am refering to the fact that disfellowshipping is a form of extreem punishment & I mention the terrible effects that being d/f'd can have on people, she will eventually retort with something like "so what you are saying is that we should tolerate paedophiles, rapists & thieves in the organisation then?"

Of course, I've never at any point said anything of the sort.

Or if I have been overly critical of the amount of control the society wants over peoples lives, she would reply "so what you are saying is that we should all just go out & do what we want, get drunk & live an immoral life?" Again, I haven't said any of that in the conversation.

I always reply that it is her that is saying those things & not me. I always point that out to her.

It is as if she misses the whole point of my reasonable objections & just replies with extreem examples rather than take on board the point of what I am saying.

And the reason it is dangerous in my opinion is that it makes logical conversation based on fact almost impossible. The genuine points that I make are just cast aside and not discussed.

Does anyone else face this kind of thing?

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Wierd District Convention experience Pioneer/Elder claim disapointment he's still not a C.O???

by Witness 007 in

melbourne australia district convention last saturday this jackass pioneer/elder gets on stage and relates how he and his wife have served where the need is great in many congs hoping for the "privledge" of being a c.o couple....he expressed "disapointment and discouragement" when he was not appointed....he moved to a new assignment in the chinese cong.. the speaker thanks him for his "honesty" but i was thinking what are his motives for serving his brothers?

is this a good example for pioneering?

must be a reason his ambition...... sorry i mean, goals could not be reached.

jambon1

I knew an uber witness couple (pioneers/elder) in our congregation who were absolutely dying to become co/co's wife. The amount of arse licking & sphincter fondling that they carried out was cringeworthy to watch. To my knowledge they still never attained their ambition. The thing with them was that they loved to be treated like royalty. They too had travelled between local 'need greater' congregations for years.

I can still recall this peice of shit bragging about how he and his wife had attained however many years of continuous pioneer service since they left school. Honestly it was enough to give you the boak.

A horrible couple who looked down on & judged many, many people in our circuit.

They perfectly summed up why I didn't want to be part of their lame shit little religion.

Horrible people.

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Besty Unplugged - My Life Story Part II

by besty in

<<part i. i dont recall discussing the great disappointment of 1975 as a family.

i was only 5 and my older and wiser brother was 8. what i can remember was the muted sense of excitement we both felt in 1977. shortly after elvis died my dad announced we were moving off the island back to the scottish mainland.

i didnt connect the death of elvis with our big move, and rightly so.

jambon1

Good read Paul.

Thanks.

Looking forward to your next section.

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New Kingdom Melodies - samples on youtube

by Nostromo in

sorry if these have been posted before:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygci6xgdwsg&feature=related.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p24vkzb5jw4.

jambon1

Morbidly depressing stuff TBH.

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2009 Drama Synopsis and Comments

by jabberwock in

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friends

this year's drama was based on the parable of the prodigal son.

the theme was "your brother was dead and came to life".

as some have probably heard, it is a modern day story based on that parable, so there are no fancy costumes or fake beards.. .

jambon1

Bad things happen to everyone who leaves the truth.

How utterly predictable, yet sad that people have such a low opinion of worldly people. I actually had to leave the truth because I felt that I was surrounded by arseholes yet when I went out and made friends with worldly people I felt so much more refreshed & happy.

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Is there any info on the different emotions one goes through after leaving a cult?

by jambon1 in

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friends

thanks in advance.. j.

jambon1

Thanks in advance.

J

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I had one of those discussions this weekend - Am I getting anywhere?

by BonaFide in

last week during bible highlights, a sister commented on leviticus 19:28 about not having a tattoo.

i also commented, saying that we are not under the law, but the principle should be taken into consideration.. a sister i don't speak with very often called me.

she is in the same congregation as some of my family.

jambon1

They go round and round in circles and more or less say the same thing - whatever the WT says is what we should do & if you don't then you're fucked.

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I Just Told My Two JW Sisters Off

by CrimsonBleu in

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friends

after all these years, the two of them are still 'in' and i have been 'out' over 25 years.

neither of them could ever get along and i always played mediator.

they fight and disagree on everything!

jambon1

Welcome.

Never mind what Jesus would have done. You'll never be that perfect so give yourself a break huh?

Jehovah's Witnesses who shun others are pure filth IMO. I just don't see any humanity in people acting this way.

At one time my neighbour JW elder smart ass decided he wouldn't speak to me (even though I'm not d/f'd). Fair enough I thought. Lets see how he likes it. So I shunned him back.