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  At the tribulation your children may be taken from you like in nazi Germany

  by jambon1 in

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  it is incredible the amount of scaremongering that jw's carry out.. this was one that always plagued me when i was still trying to grasp onto my beliefs as a jw.. either in wt study or in private discussion, this topic would come up.. what a horendous outlook of the future.

  to be in absolute fear that the authorities might take your children away from you.

  that you might suffer torture.

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  The reason I mentioned it was because I was told that I was too sensitive by many JW's when discussing stuff like this that worried me.

  I was also told that I 'think too much'.
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  At the tribulation your children may be taken from you like in nazi Germany

  by jambon1 in

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  it is incredible the amount of scaremongering that jw's carry out.. this was one that always plagued me when i was still trying to grasp onto my beliefs as a jw.. either in wt study or in private discussion, this topic would come up.. what a horendous outlook of the future.

  to be in absolute fear that the authorities might take your children away from you.

  that you might suffer torture.

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  It is incredible the amount of scaremongering that JW's carry out.

  This was one that always plagued me when I was still trying to grasp onto my beliefs as a JW.

  Either in WT study or in private discussion, this topic would come up.

  What a horendous outlook of the future. To be in absolute fear that the authorities might take your children away from you. That you might suffer torture. That you may be asked to sign a form like in nazi Germany to renounce your faith otherwise the authorities will torture your children in front of you.

  Terrible, terrible things to have implanted into your mind regarding what may occur in the 'near future'.

  Are Jehovah's Witnesses the most negative, disturbing influence that you could ever expose your mind to.

  Or was I just 'over sensitive'?

  Thoughts?
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  Jehovah provides for pioneers but takes no action on behalf of children being abused

  by jambon1 in

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  this was something that i could never get my head around.. i recall being at a convention and a pioneer couple (who happened to be complete arseholes) were talking about how they had had this bill for a car repair & 'didn't know what they were going to do so they prayed about it & waited on jehovah'.

  the bill was for 66.73 & within a few days they had returned home to find an electricity rebate made out to them for 66.73. et voila!

  all sorted out.

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  This was something that I could never get my head around.

  I recall being at a convention and a pioneer couple (who happened to be complete arseholes) were talking about how they had had this bill for a car repair & 'didn't know what they were going to do so they prayed about it & waited on jehovah'. The bill was for £66.73 & within a few days they had returned home to find an electricity rebate made out to them for £66.73. Et voila! All sorted out. God had 'stepped in' on their behalf & 'taken action' to ensure that their piss ant car was kept on the road to enable them to pioneer. Much 'oooohhhh'ing & aaaaaahhhh'ing' from the convention audience.

  Now this is the thing that bothers me with this religion. How is it that they feel comfortable worshiping a god who 'takes action' for a couple of idiots who are in full time service yet when a child is being abused in the congregation & prays for it to stop, he doesn't 'take action'?

  For years I was told that god only intervenes on behalf of mankind in relation to spiritual matters & not physical. Yet for years I would hear lame shit stories of a brother getting this pefect part-time job or some sister being given a car or a pioneer couple being handed a free holiday by some kind person in the Kingdom Hall. Surely these are 'physical matters'?

  So why can't god step in or take the same sort of miraculous action to help a child avoid being scarred for life by a paedophile?

  Fancy having your head so far up your own arse that you imagine that your need for a car is more important than the welfare of an abused child.

  I can't buy into the logic. Never understood it. Never will.

  Discuss.

  J
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  I would like to hear your experiences with being SHUNNED

  by jwfacts in

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  i am going to put together a page of short experiences of how shunning has affected exjws.

  you do not have to be disfellowshipped, even if you were shunned after being marked or after fading.

  all comments are welcome, such as who shunned you, how long since family have spoken to you, what your situation is, why you are being shunned and how it has made you feel.

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  I faded very, very quickly 4 years ago. Not d/f'd.

  Some witnesses in my area have taken it upon themselves to shun me so as to prove their uber faithfulness as a JW. These people sicken me.

  Interestingly, a number of witnesses have decided to 'flip-flop' shun me over the last few years. Sometimes they will let on to me & other times they will simply blank me etc. I grew very tired of this kind of treatment. It is frustrating trying to work out if a person is going to be friendly or not. So I decided to 'reverse shun' these individuals. This decision wasn't taken rashly. Rather it was a reaction to thier pettymindedness over a number of years.

  I can tell you that they don't like it at all. One brother who 'flip-flop' shuns me was walking by as I let my wife out of the car at the recent convention. He wished to speak to me that day & play the friendly witness role, probobly so as not to appear like a complete arsehole in front of my wife. I ignored him completely. Why should I take any part in his juvenile nonsense? Why should I validate this sad little mans self righteous bigotry? He knows why I ignored him.

  I have no time in my life for people who act in this manner.
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  Loving your beutiful children

  by jambon1 in

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  i had little or no problems with my beliefs as an 18 year old convert to the jehovah's witness religion.

  fair enough, there were a few things that i found a bit wacky & odd, but i was on the road to life.

  i couldn't give a rats arse about many things.

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  Balsam.

  How terribly sad. My heart goes out to you. I don't understand it & I never will.

  The vulnerability of children is what gets to me a lot. They rely on their parents for everything. Love, care, approval. They deserve everything you can give them.

  I'm guessing that Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling what the bible says about lacking 'natural affection'. They are unnatural. Sub-human.

  Best wishes,

  J
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  Generation 'New Light' is Actually Working

  by zoiks in

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  as ridiculous as it seems to me and most of you, the infamous 'generation' update has every jw that i know in a tizzy.

  they're all worked up about how 'exciting' it all is.

  i just received a letter from my mom (she only communicates through letters now), and she brought it up - how they carefully explained it at the convention, and how it shows that we are so close to the end.. unbelievable.

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  What an absolutely bizzare set up this is.

  The WTS actually redefines the meaning of a word & in addition throws in another 'adjustment' to the generation teaching & the witnesses all swallow it with smiles on their faces?

  
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  Loving your beutiful children

  by jambon1 in

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  i had little or no problems with my beliefs as an 18 year old convert to the jehovah's witness religion.

  fair enough, there were a few things that i found a bit wacky & odd, but i was on the road to life.

  i couldn't give a rats arse about many things.

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  When my son was 18, he told his father and I that he no longer wanted to go to the meetings. His father immediately kicked him out of the house. I remember it was the Friday of the CO Visit. My heart broke that night, the terrible gut-wrenching sobs that you never really recover from.

  I was forbidden tohave anything to do with him, or to help him make his way in the world. But I disobeyed. I kept in touch with him against his father's wishes, gave him money, a job and the things he needed - dishes, sheets, towels, etc.

  The people my son had grown up with, the people who had watched him grow up, his grandparents, aunts and uncles....it was as if he had died, but there was no funeral, and no one talked about him. It was as if he never existed. I believe only one person ever asked me how he was doing.

  The part that bothered me was that we heard experiences at the assemblies and read them in the magazines about how WORLDLY people would cut off family members who became Witnesses, and this was proof of them being led by Satan. How was this any different? It doesn't make sense.

  My son's own father was rejected by his Catholic family when he became a JW - but it was a brief rejecting. They weren't happy but they accepted him as part of the family no matter what he believed.

  I have made it clear to my children that there is NOTHING they can do that will make me reject or shun them. It's been hard to convince them of this, because of their experience with the Witnesses.

  Like Loz, I wish I had come to my senses and gotten my kids out earlier.

  Palmtree, that was incredibly hard reading. It must have been awful for you. I really believe that it would feel like a death to have to have nothing to do with my children as adults.

  The way Jehovahs Witnesses act in this regards disgusts me & anyone that I speak to about this issue feels the same.

  JW's - Take a good look at yourselves. You are destroying lives!
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  Loving your beutiful children

  by jambon1 in

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  i had little or no problems with my beliefs as an 18 year old convert to the jehovah's witness religion.

  fair enough, there were a few things that i found a bit wacky & odd, but i was on the road to life.

  i couldn't give a rats arse about many things.

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  Nice words chickpea.

  It is true that the organisation puts people in the most awful positions.

  In my case also, my kids come 1st every single time. It's just the way it has to be.
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  Wimbledon Thank Yous

  by scotinsw in

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  as expected serena williams did her thank yous and the first one was "to my god jehovah".. we also found out that she has a lucky number - 13!!.

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  The Williams family make me boak.
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  The old big orange "Paradise" book

  by aquagirl in

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  2. beliefs

  anyone remember that?

  i learned to read on that book.there were some very disturbing images,like the earth opening up and people falling into it.like upside down ladies and hippies.id love to get a hold of one and peruse it with a friend and some herbal medicine.maybe there is one in the attic?anyway,that and the image of the snake talking to the beautiful,bare shouldered eve,who was holding an apple,made a big impression on me.any else have any faves from that book?is it still being used?.

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  This is my point over & over again.

  Why do they get away with this abuse of childrens minds?