Un****ingbelievable.
It's been some time since I was shocked by what is contained in the WT but this really takes the biscuit.
jambon1
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by yourmomma inhave anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?
its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .
if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?
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Was The Internet The Clincher For You To Mentally Leave The Organization?
by minimus ini think it was for me.. i knew a lot of the history of the bible students, russell, rutherford and the "old light".
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once i could see all of the overwhelming evidence right in front of my eyes, there was no ignoring the reality..
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jambon1
Not the sum total of why I left but I remember feeling absolutely relieved that other people felt the same way that I did about various matters.
It was like a huge weight off my shoulders. All along I had blamed myself for me lack of faith. The fact that others had felt the same and had saw the same shit going on in KH's all over the world convinced me that it wasn't just a 'local' problem.
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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans
by Unlearn ini'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.
it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.
more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.
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jambon1
Paranoia took over my life nearly to the point of suicide as a JW.
I look back now (6 years) and wonder what all the fuss was about.
That really is indoctrination.
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"The Brothers"
by jambon1 in.
the longer you spend away from the organisation, the more utterly cringeworthy this term sounds when you hear it.. like they are all one big happy family.
what jw phrases make you cringe?.
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jambon1
The longer you spend away from the organisation, the more utterly cringeworthy this term sounds when you hear it.
Like they are all one big happy family.
What JW phrases make you cringe?
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WT: "Don't watch news items featuring witnesses!"
by cedars inhi everyone, yet another analysis of a recent watchtower i'm afraid.
this one's a little closer to home, as it concerns apostates.
yes - i'm referring to the forthcoming article "will you heed jehovah's clear warnings?
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jambon1
I guess by speaking openly about my honest objections to the religion, I'm an apostate.
Mind you, keeping all my objections welled up inside for years & trying to live the life of a faithful witness nearly drove me to suicide.
So, I'll go with the apostate tag. I'll also keep on speaking about beliefs & practices of the religion which are clearly wrong & damaging to people - disfellowshipping, shunning, the blood issue, thought control, etc, etc.
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Thanks for your support JWN!!! Dad dies monday, JW family goes to convention on thursday
by Coffee House Girl incoffee shop guy directed me to his thread...thank you so much everyone for your thoughts of support, it means a lot to have people who understand and show genuine sympathy.
here's my experience so far.... my father dies monday night & my brother (nonjw) calls me to come home, when i arrive my father is still sitting on the couch- all the jw family is sitting in a semi-circle around him, my non jw brother is standing in the next room.
no one is crying, no one is talking.
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jambon1
Sorry for your loss. You remembered your dad in a lovely, sincere way.
JW's can even turn the death of a person into the most inhuman circumstance.
Cold, heartless.
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There is no social programme in exsistance that recommends shunning as a means of rehabilitation
by jambon1 incan someone tell the wts/jw's how utterly counter productive & cruel shunning is?.
apart from serious crimes where a person might conscientiously have nothing to do with a friend/relative, people who are struggling with any kind of issues generally need love, support & kindness.. shunning is unnecessary, evil & humiliating.. does the punishment really fit the crime?
someone caves into the 'sins of the flesh' so they are cut off from all human contact with everyone they know?.
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jambon1
Can someone tell the WTS/JW's how utterly counter productive & cruel shunning is?
Apart from serious crimes where a person might conscientiously have nothing to do with a friend/relative, people who are struggling with any kind of issues generally need love, support & kindness.
Shunning is unnecessary, evil & humiliating.
Does the punishment really fit the crime? Someone caves into the 'sins of the flesh' so they are cut off from all human contact with everyone they know?
And don't give me the excuses about the supposed idea that it's only those who aren't repentant. Do me a favour! We all know that is absolute horse shit.
Anyone who supports shunning as a form of dicipline or rehabilitation is kidding themselves on big time.
It is evil & those who carry it out are fulfilling scripture for all the wrong reasons.
Shame on them.
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Elders who conduct judicial comittees are creepy & perverted
by jambon1 inwhy can't people in jw congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?.
a girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature.
three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room.
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jambon1
Wow. My sympathys go to you.
I never realised that the elders actually JC people who have been raped.
Sometimes I can still be surprised by them.
Shocking.
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Elders who conduct judicial comittees are creepy & perverted
by jambon1 inwhy can't people in jw congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?.
a girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature.
three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room.
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jambon1
Quite.
The other facet of all of this is that if a person is truely sorry before god then why the need to explain your indescretion to men?
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Elders who conduct judicial comittees are creepy & perverted
by jambon1 inwhy can't people in jw congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?.
a girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature.
three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room.
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jambon1
Why can't people in JW congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?
A girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature. Three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room. All alone. Asking the details of said indescretion.
I mean, what is the crime here? The girls fornication or the fact that three old men want to sit and listen to all the details of it?
I have heard that in some cases elders have been extreemly rude & have asked very personal questions.
Why don't JW's see how perverted this is?
How can any decent parent allow their child to be put through this?
