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  If you give a present, Jehovah will kill you.

  by schnell in

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  if you tell someone "merry christmas" or simply respond with "you too", then god is angry with you and you will answer for every such violation at your day of judgment.. if you eat some leftover birthday cake and a thin-skinned witness sees you and gets offended even though there's nothing wrong with the cake itself, you have become a stumbling block and god wants you to fix it before judgment day or else.. if you watch a cartoon featuring characters that may or may not be hilariously gay, it turns out that it does matter because this is an affront to god and he will judge all those who entertain such cartoons.. there are a lot of implications about god that jehovah's witnesses seem to make but never consider.

  the problem is that they don't follow it all the way through.

  in keeping themselves in god's love, and considering how they think he feels about matters in their daily lives, they submit to what is basically an ecclesiastical opinion that has terrible implications about god's character.

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  Jehovah is an awfully precious wee soul. And boaby daft as well. Loves a rule or two about people's genitalia. Quite the little pervert actually.

  If you had a mate that acted like that you'd have dumped him a looooong time ago.
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  I feel really, really sorry for those born into the Jehovah's Witness religion

  by jambon1 in

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  some facts that make the difference between you and me:.

  1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.

  how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.

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  Interesting to note that kids despised the conventions.

  My son opted out around age 8. I'd already left the religion so I was happy for him not to go but it'd break my heart when he'd cry on the morning of the convention saying "all I do is sit there listening to things I don't understand about".

  I'd argue in the past and still maintain today that the sort of material that they allow kids to hear at these ridiculous events is not age appropriate. It's a wonder they don't get into trouble from the authorities for exposing children to detailed material relating to sex, death and other inappropriate topics.

  Again, why can't they see how wrong it is?
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  I feel really, really sorry for those born into the Jehovah's Witness religion

  by jambon1 in

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  some facts that make the difference between you and me:.

  1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.

  how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.

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  Thanks for the remarks.

  Yes, I'd stand by my original term 'wicked'.

  And let's not forget those who are homosexual.

  Generally despised, looked down upon, made to feel dirty or evil.

  And then in the end, when you finally struggle to come out (often after years of emotional turmoil), your parents dump you forevermore. Each passing year your lifestyle is met with their scorn and disapproval.

  Hideous.
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  I feel really, really sorry for those born into the Jehovah's Witness religion

  by jambon1 in

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  some facts that make the difference between you and me:.

  1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.

  how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.

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  Some facts that make the difference between you and me:

  1 - as a person raised by non JW family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know. How does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'I'll show love to you. But, only if you believe the same things as me. Otherwise I will view you as dead'. Absolutely crazy.

  2 - my parents never taught me the deep seated, harmful & divisive concept that EVERYONE who doesn't believe what we believe is worthy of death, and a horrific one at that - strewn as manure over the surface of the earth! This has got to be deeply harmful to the mind of a child.

  3 - my parents provided me with a diverse and socially interesting background of people who would later go on to provide me with superb, non judgmental, life long friendships. If you state that you believe differently from friends, you lose your entire social network in an instant. How sad.

  4 - my parents never taught me bedtime stories about babies being cut in half, people being drowned in a worldwide flood or an imminent impending death for all humanity. Again, the psychological impact of this must have been horrendous.

  5 - my parents never put the responsibilities of an adult onto myself as a young child. Expecting your child to make a stand for something they dont have a full grasp of, at school, is utterly mind boggling to me. Forcing your child to continually stand out as different among big groups of their peers is selfish and inconsiderate of the child's feelings.

  6 - on a Saturday morning I watched cartoons.

  All in all, parents who raise their children as witnesses are in my opinion, self absorbed, inconsiderate and in the case of implementing shunning, outright wicked.

  i left the religion behind because I could see the glaring harm that a JW upbringing would do to my children. The psychological impact must be significant. Those that remain must be completely blind to the potential harm.

  I wish more parents would wake up before it's too late.
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  Tee shirts to send to Caleb & Sofias mum and dad.....

  by jambon1 in

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  stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/e076f84bca044b268072e9ecd2c2dbde.html

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  That One Defining Moment That Changed Your Life.

  by new boy in

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  it seems that many times in life there is a moment or an action that changes your whole world.

  it could be just a look that someone gives you.. many times it can be something rather small.

  something hardly noticeable by anyone but you.

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  Listening to David Attenborough describe the 'creation' of worms which cause river blindness versus 'creation' such as butterflies or beautiful flowers.

  Sitting in my living room in December 2002 saying to myself 'I'm out the truth'. Took me 3 further years to leave.

  In this clip, his chat is nesr the end....

  https://youtu.be/jSugaWJW2bk
  
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  You know it's time to give up the JW religion when your route call tells you to

  by jambon1 in

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  lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:.

  i had a route call with the magazines whom i'd called on for a number of years.

  eventually when i become a parent i became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression.

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  For those asking, no, I never saw the woman again. She wasn't old. She was in her 50's.

  I probably should've wrote a card. Actually I had many, many nice regular calls. But when I left I didn't look back. I ran. With absolute no desire to have any link to that part of my life at all.

  I probably regret the way I left actually. I would've served others well had I taken the time to write letters to those who would've benefitted from them.
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  You know it's time to give up the JW religion when your route call tells you to

  by jambon1 in

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  lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:.

  i had a route call with the magazines whom i'd called on for a number of years.

  eventually when i become a parent i became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression.

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  Nice comments.

  It makes me feel for those still in that desperately want to be free.

  At one time, the feeling of wanting to live a normal life and get to choose who I have in my life instead of having those in the cong forced upon you, was at fever pitch in me. It was like a burning desire. Until I got the strength to leave I was utterly miserable.

  Now a decade on, I've carved out a lovely life and friends group and my outlook on life is like night and day. I can't begin to imagine living a single day in their 'spiritual' routine. It nearly killed me man.
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  You know it's time to give up the JW religion when your route call tells you to

  by jambon1 in

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  lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:.

  i had a route call with the magazines whom i'd called on for a number of years.

  eventually when i become a parent i became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression.

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  Lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:

  I had a route call with the magazines whom I'd called on for a number of years. Eventually when I become a parent I became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression. I would call on this lovely older lady and kind of confided in her about being very low, depressed even. I had no one else to turn to.

  I remember one day she said "Jambon, can I be honest with you for a minute? I read these magazines that you give me and I feel that it's your religion they may be depressing you. Your religion tends to focus on very negative, heavy issues. You're a young man. You have a lovely, healthy little family. You should be fillied with optimism and you should be enjoying the best days of your life. I think you need to give consideration to the possibly that your religion may be a big factor".

  Of course, I was embarrassed and she was very kind and apologised for speaking out of turn.

  That woman confirmed what I subconsciously knew already. The religion had dragged a bright, young, successful man in his mid twenties down to the gutter of low self esteem, negativity and depression.

  I left the religion 6 months later.
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  Why is religion in general so obsessed with what people choose to do with their willies and vaginas?

  by jambon1 in

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  what was it in the evolution of religion that got them so hung up about what people do with their genitalia?.

  i mean, the (mis)use of genitalia is up there with murdering another human being in terms of badness.. and in the 21st century, we have a situation where in the jw religion, it's deemed as acceptable for three middle aged/old men to sit a teenage girl down and ask her the details of her use of her genitals.

  to any normal person this is intrusive, completely inappropriate and bordering on deviancy.. why they so obsessed?.

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  What was it in the evolution of religion that got them so hung up about what people do with their genitalia?

  I mean, the (mis)use of genitalia is up there with murdering another human being in terms of badness.

  And in the 21st century, we have a situation where in the JW religion, it's deemed as acceptable for three middle aged/old men to sit a teenage girl down and ask her the details of her use of her genitals. To any normal person this is intrusive, completely inappropriate and bordering on deviancy.

  Why they so obsessed?