I would never try to sue the sosiety, one of the societys legal representitives went to my bookstudy, I would file a law suite against the individuals that tried to hit me with 2 by 4's and discriminated against me because of my race. I never thought the society would try to deffend people like that, espesialy when there was no question rasial slures were being used, its just that know one did anything about it. And I definantly get more sleep now, I was so depresed when this first happend I did not do much else.It hurt to much to be awake. Also the bible dose teach that god is love and that should be the main motivation for serving him. But at Matthew 24:14 Jesus COMANDED his followers to preach in all the inhabited earth the same kingdom message. Jehovahs wittnesses are the only ones I know that do that.
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my bethel servise left me seriously depressed!!!!
by xcaliber ini auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
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my bethel servise left me seriously depressed!!!!
by xcaliber ini auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
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I know that people are given cars as gifts by other rich members of the organization, and I know about the very expensive things people donate to bethel, those things are given only to those that have spent many years there.But while I was at bethel I was actualy working hard. It was only after I was asked to leave and experienced discrimination that I began to think about obtaining matterial things for my self. so yes I was REALY at bethel but my focus at the time was not obtaining what others had.
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Voluntary answering at meetings
by ThomasCovenant inwatchtower august 1st 1953 page 458.
'hence starting with the congregational study of this issue of the magazine, the conductor may call on persons whether they volunteer or not'.
i never saw this happen at my meeting.
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I know brother magnusson he was my district overseer while at bethel and brother mazacheck was the C.O. they both visited my congregation and I enjoyed speaking to him.
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my bethel servise left me seriously depressed!!!!
by xcaliber ini auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
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I dont need to write down names of people and what happend, I will never forget what has happend. And if ever I get the oportunity I will take legal action against those responsible because I dont think rasist people are christians so it realy would not be like I was fileing a law suite against a fello christian. But please some body tell me this, some one said know body is benefiting from the organiztion but those on top, how is that possible Everyone at the head quarters in bethel is a volunteer knowbody gets paid a dime. So why was it that while at bethel some people had 2006 cadilac's and BMW,s and in there rooms had entertainment systems big televisions and these were mostly the people that had been there 10 years or more. Wouldent the people that have been there the longest be the least likely to have money, because they have not reseived income for so long. how is it posible you can volunteer for 8 hours every day of the week and 5 hours on saturday, but still drive a 2006 cadilac????? I want to know so I can get one.
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my bethel servise left me seriously depressed!!!!
by xcaliber ini auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
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it is true that the new world translation is the main bible that I use for my study, but it is one of the few translations that did not have gods name Jehovah taken out of it. And in all my years of knocking on doors I have never meet one person that could pick up any bible and prove that my beleifs were wrong, and I am more then willing to listen.
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my bethel servise left me seriously depressed!!!!
by xcaliber ini auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
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Let me make it clear I am not looking for a hand out. I worked 17 hour days at bethel, memorized all or most medical termes used by the nurses with no medical back ground. I am a hard worker. I guess I was feeling sorry for my self because my whole perception of my own organization was recently shaterd never to be the same again. to understand you would have to know how bethel was the only goal I had for the future, I would have died trying to get in.And about being raised in the truth, I do a lot of reserch on my own and most other religions have something extremly wrong with them. They teach that god is a trinity which is crazy. or they teach every body is going to heaven, when the bible says only a set number will go, or they teach that you will burn up in a fire for ever when you die, when the bible clearly states that the dead feel nothing and are no longer consious.And here is a big one Jehovahs wittnesses preach the same message in over 230 lands, Jesus said to preach the kingdom message in all the earth, who else do you see going door to door teaching others about the bible. That is why I canot leave the organization because no other organization comes close to following scripture.
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my bethel servise left me seriously depressed!!!!
by xcaliber ini auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
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well yes I have low income because I have worked for free at bethel the last 3 years. I have only been away for about 5 months. I will look into training as a nurses assistant.Its just that we are made in gods image and we have a strong sence of justice, and I feel something should be done about raceism at bethel, and a lot of other things there to. I know the names of every one involved. there has got to be something I could do.
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my bethel servise left me seriously depressed!!!!
by xcaliber ini auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
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I am 28 years old. I guess I could try to learn a skill. but I found someone I want to marry. and I am trying to have a family and forget all that happend. But it is almost impossible to get a job here. And my fiance wants to get married soon. I think this experienced has cripled me for a long time.
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my bethel servise left me seriously depressed!!!!
by xcaliber ini auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
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I dont want to leave the organization because it is the only one that I know that is very acurate as far as bible teachings. But my old rasist overseer is still in bethel while I strugle to find a job and pay bills. I wish I could sue him or something. but when you go to bethel you sign a contract saying you will not sue the society. I wish I could go on the news or something.
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my bethel servise left me seriously depressed!!!!
by xcaliber ini auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
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Let me tell you a little about me. I auxilary pioneered for a year, then I regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant. Then I served at bethel for 3 years. While at bethel I worked harder then I have my hole life. I worked 17 hour days when when my overseer and assistant overseer was away and the crew was low on staff. I auxilary pioneered while I was there. And this might sound crazy but just to tell you how hard I worked, I would go to the library after work to pray,study and meditate then I would go to my room around 9:00 pm take a shower change my clothes then stay up in the library all night and then go to work the next day with out sleep. My roomate would wounder why I was never in the room all night.I did sleep some times when I would fall asleep in the library.I would do all these things because I wanted to draw close to Jehovah.But my crew overseer was very racist he would use rasial slurs ALL THE TIME I was being hurassed by the other 2 white members of the crew, I mean fisicaly. a 2 by 4 was thrown at me nails were thrown at me things like that. I told my department overseer and all he did was talk to the people responsible. this would make them more angry at me.I went to an elder and overseer of a different department, then my department overseer was angry that I spoke to someone outside of the department.Eventualy I got sent to the medical department, I worked hard to memorize medical terms so I could read peoples charts, I worked with elderly people I would change dipers things like that. But then Bethel began down sizeing, I was called into a room and told I would have to leave by 2 elders. One of them knew the rasist overseer that I worked with so I thought this was revenge for me speaking out about what happend. I did not have money for an apartment or anything, bethel dose not pay you for your work, Also I was not certified to work in the medical feild, or certified by bethel to do anything outside of bethel. so I asked if I could go to M.T.S. ( a school) so I could get some training I was told they would not send mr to the school. I was left with nothing and I was afraid to fight back because I did not want to get thrown out of the organization.To this day I still do not have a job, most of my life I was volunteering to help the organization.And 4 year universitys are not spoken of highly by the organization most are encoraged to volunteer to pioneer right out of high school. WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU WERE ME????