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  Even in their prayers they prove that they are a cult.

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the meeting sunday the brother giving one of the prayers said.

  "that we than you for your organization because people who are outside.

  of the congregation are corrupt and wicked.".

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  Have you ever heard them pray for those who are currently studying "Bible truths?"

  Just once? Ever?

  Or are the "honest-hearted ones" who accept a study in the same pool, outside the congregation, as the corrupt and wicked too?

  ~Sue
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  Jehovah's Witness elder sentenced

  by Kenneson in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  see sentencing remarks for gordon william inston at.

  http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/sent_remarks/sr/0731_inston_gordon_william.htm.

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  "You will have to serve it; it will begin today."

  (Sounds exactly like a sentence from Jah, straight out of the Hebrew scriptures.)

  ~Sue
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  At the grocery store

  by beksbks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i just went to the store, and got a few items.

  salmon steak, artichokes, potatoes, grapes, peaches, and goat cheese.

  the lady behind me (who was on one of those hoverounds) asked me what the little package was, i told her goat cheese.

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  ... And the salmon will give you mercury poisoning!
  
  Just heard that one, a few weeks ago, from a lifelong commercial beef-eater with advanced heart disease.
  
  How and why and where the EFF I mean heck do these people get off "sharing" their health and nutrition tips?
  
  ~Sue
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  I ran into an ex-JW on vacation. We're everywhere.

  by MegaDude in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i took my summer vacation to grand cayman this year, a small island south of cuba.

  i love the scuba diving there.

  the island is small.

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  White Dove, you're right: It was thinking ability. But from what I also understand, the total lack of love.
  
  Pretty much the same in my court. We are truly blessed.

  ~Sue
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  I ran into an ex-JW on vacation. We're everywhere.

  by MegaDude in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i took my summer vacation to grand cayman this year, a small island south of cuba.

  i love the scuba diving there.

  the island is small.

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  Oh — My brother, another walk-away believer, met both guys at different times over the years.
  
  He was impressed that one guy's wife refused to have a Christmas tree in the house, and the other one wasn't allowed to play sports growing up.
  
  Ding ding ding!
  
  But I agreed at the time. (Duh.)
  
  ~Sue
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  I ran into an ex-JW on vacation. We're everywhere.

  by MegaDude in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i took my summer vacation to grand cayman this year, a small island south of cuba.

  i love the scuba diving there.

  the island is small.

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  So true!
  
  I knew not one, but two of Mr. B's oldest and dearest buddies for almost 10 years before I found out, both were from JW families. Mr. B hadn't a clue, either.
  
  Abundant ex-JW signals were there... but I was still a believer with a sincere JW blind spot. And they were far too respectful of my blind spot, my "daze."
  
  Ah, the humanity! We can discuss our experiences now without fear or shame. But then we don't exactly sit around crying over it, it's distant past for them, and our lives
  are pretty damn good despite the Watchtower regime's family poisoning program.
  
  ~Sue
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  my motorcycle trip next weekend with dubs....and why it is sad.....

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  cause i have some really cool old jw friends and it is a weekend riding camping trip in the great smokey mountains...........and that should be fun right?............ya.........except......

  these cool old friends were going to let my dfd son ride with us and camp and all........but then some of their dub family wanted to come, and some other dubs who dont even know my son........and even though he was great friends with some of these guys kids... who wanted to come just to camp...........well..........they would not come if my son comes............ you can not beleive how sad this makes me....it hurts....i dont even want to go now but i do understand these nuts and i do like my old friends......my dfd son even said to still go because he understands why his lifelong best friend (just reinstated!!!!

  ) will not go if he goes......he seems way cooler about it than me.................... this kind of painful conflict is going to kill me early......i wish me and my son could move far far far far far away....oompa.

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  Hey oompa, it's great that he's turning his life around, and you're there to support him. You have to know he's not the first "rebellious youth from the Truth" and certainly not the last one (I speak from experience because I wore that label well).
  
  But even worldly people don't want to hang with guys who have a history — that's the consequences of his young life so far. The Witness angle complicates it, but it would probably happen anyway. You and he need to accept that and move forward with or without them.
  
  Success is the greatest revenge against these people. Help each other show them how it's done beyond their ugly little cult. Then let them stew in their own juices.
  
  ~Sue
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  my motorcycle trip next weekend with dubs....and why it is sad.....

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  cause i have some really cool old jw friends and it is a weekend riding camping trip in the great smokey mountains...........and that should be fun right?............ya.........except......

  these cool old friends were going to let my dfd son ride with us and camp and all........but then some of their dub family wanted to come, and some other dubs who dont even know my son........and even though he was great friends with some of these guys kids... who wanted to come just to camp...........well..........they would not come if my son comes............ you can not beleive how sad this makes me....it hurts....i dont even want to go now but i do understand these nuts and i do like my old friends......my dfd son even said to still go because he understands why his lifelong best friend (just reinstated!!!!

  ) will not go if he goes......he seems way cooler about it than me.................... this kind of painful conflict is going to kill me early......i wish me and my son could move far far far far far away....oompa.

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  Is it this son?
  
  ~Sue
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  International Conventions - $7 Million for Paris Alone - Where's the money?

  by Ultimate Reality in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the "package" for americans to attend the paris convention this year was $2600 per person including airfare ($2000 w/o airfare).

  the optional dinner vouchers were an additional $160 per person.

  all this for 5 days.

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  There was an Oath of Allegiance to the United States passport requirement instituted in 1915. See this article:

  NEW PASSPORT RULES IN EFFECT SUNDAY; Oath of Allegiance, Duplicate Affidavit, and Three Photographs of Applicant Required. FULL DETAILS OF THE TRIP Where One Is Going When Abroad, and Why.
  
  That requirement was dropped from passport applications at some point in time. The confusion amongst ex-JWs may stem from an online copy of Nathan Knorr's (undated) passport signature here. (Scroll down to 2008_Jehovahs_Witnesses_and_National_Oaths_of_Allegiance.pdf)
  
  "Further, I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations, or purpose of evasion; So help me God."
  
  Not the same as the Oath of Allegiance (still required for U.S. citizenship) but no longer for U.S. passports.
  
  ~Sue
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  International Conventions - $7 Million for Paris Alone - Where's the money?

  by Ultimate Reality in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the "package" for americans to attend the paris convention this year was $2600 per person including airfare ($2000 w/o airfare).

  the optional dinner vouchers were an additional $160 per person.

  all this for 5 days.

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  betterdaze

  Form DS-11: Application for a U.S. Passport
  
  "I declare under penalty of perjury all of the following: 1) I am a citizen or non-citizen national of the United States and have not, since acquiring U.S. citizenship or nationality,
  performed any of the acts listed under “Acts or Conditions” on the reverse side of this application (unless explanatory statement is attached); 2) the statements made on the
  application are true and correct; 3) I have not knowingly and willfully made false statements or included false documents in support of this application; 4) the photograph
  submitted with this application is a genuine, current, photograph of me; and 5) I have read and understood the warning on page two of the instructions to the application form.
  
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  Passport Office FAQ
  
  Why do I need to appear in person at a US Passport Office?
  
  You must appear before the acceptance agent to pledge an oath that you have faithfully and truthfully completed the application for a new passport. You'll be asked to sign the application after making the oath. Your signature will attest to your having done so. The official at the US passport office will check your state issued ID to verify your signature and physical description.