Tammy, Dove's hosting company shut them down last night due to complaints about hate speech.
~Sue
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Pastor to burn Koran
by beksbks inus pastor says will burn koran despite petraeus concernshttp://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100907/pl_afp/afghanistanunrestusreligionislampastor.
tue sep 7, 9:21 am et end .byline washington (afp) the pastor of a small florida church said tuesday he will go ahead with his plans to hold a koran burning this week, despite warnings by the us commander of the afghan war of violent reactions in the islamic world.terry jones, who heads the dove world outreach center in gainesville florida, said he had given "serious" consideration to the concerns expressed by general david petraeus over plans to torch a koran to mark the ninth anniversary of the september 11 terror attacks, but said he would proceed anyway.. "we are taking the general's words very serious.
we are continuing to pray about the action on september 11th," he said.. nevertheless, he said "we have firmly made up our mind" to go ahead with burning the muslim holy book.. "i mean, how long, when does america stand for truth?
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Pastor to burn Koran
by beksbks inus pastor says will burn koran despite petraeus concernshttp://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100907/pl_afp/afghanistanunrestusreligionislampastor.
tue sep 7, 9:21 am et end .byline washington (afp) the pastor of a small florida church said tuesday he will go ahead with his plans to hold a koran burning this week, despite warnings by the us commander of the afghan war of violent reactions in the islamic world.terry jones, who heads the dove world outreach center in gainesville florida, said he had given "serious" consideration to the concerns expressed by general david petraeus over plans to torch a koran to mark the ninth anniversary of the september 11 terror attacks, but said he would proceed anyway.. "we are taking the general's words very serious.
we are continuing to pray about the action on september 11th," he said.. nevertheless, he said "we have firmly made up our mind" to go ahead with burning the muslim holy book.. "i mean, how long, when does america stand for truth?
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betterdaze
I'm assuming you are trying to link Terry Jones with the Westboro protests at US soldier burials. Where is your proof?
You assume wrong, heavy on the ASS part.Reading before linking is your friend
Oh, my. I didn't realize you were that dense.
From the horse's own mouth: This is Google's cache of http://www.doveworld.org/blog/in-support-of-westboro-baptist. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Sep 5, 2010 05:15:03 GMT. Excerpt:
In Support of Westboro Baptist
By Fran Ingram - Posted on 21 April 2010
On Sunday April 18, Westboro Baptist Church came to Gainesville. One of their stops was a liberal "Open doors, open hearts, open minds," church near us, so we took part of our Sunday Service time and went as a church to stand with them.
We have also learned that when you speak out about what God hates, you will be hated. We do not agree with all of Westboro's methods, but we admire their determination to find radical ways to preach the truth of the Bible, as we do. Most churches and Pastors in America try to stand on neutral ground. They are lost, weak and sick and need to repent.
Excerpt from April 21, 2010: Vicious Kansas Gay-Bashers Finally Find a Friend
Westboro Baptist Church, a Kansas-based group notorious for turning tragedies into gay-bashing opportunities, is pretty much universally reviled. Even an Arizona-based Ku Klux Klan group forcefully (if ungrammatically) rejected the group in a “disclaimer” published on its website. “The Ku Klux Klan, LLC, has not or EVER will have ANY connection with The ‘Westboro Baptist Church,’” it said. “We absolutely repudiate their activities.”Not the Dove World Outreach Center, a Gainesville, Fla., church that has used similar tactics to attack both gays and Muslims. “We support Westboro who [sic] came to Gainesville because of its ‘Gay’ reputation,” the church states on its website.
In fact, Dove became virtually the only group in the history of Westboro’s anti-gay and anti-Jewish campaigning to join forces with the Topeka, Kan., church. Dove enthusiastically took part in Westboro’s Sunday protest against Gainesville’s tolerance of homosexuality. About 30 members of Dove World Outreach Center joined fewer than 10 Westboro representatives outside Trinity United Methodist Church in Gainesville, according to the Gainesville Sun. Many of the Dove protesters wore their signature “Islam is of the Devil” T-shirts — a message they’ve also promoted on signs outside the church.
Excerpt from the Florida Alligator, April 26, 2010:
But Wayne Sapp, a pastor with the Dove World Outreach Center stood with members of his congregation alongside the Westboro Baptist Church members at Trinity United Methodist Church.
Sapp's group and Westboro Baptist members sang songs such as “This Land is Going Straight to Hell” and “I’m Ashamed to Be an American,” to the tune of “This Land is Your Land” and “I’m Proud to Be an American” respectively.
According to Sapp, the Westboro Baptist Church teaches the whole Bible.
“Churches like to talk about love and acceptance, but they forget to talk about rebuke and correction,” Sapp said. “The world has rejected God. Now God is rejecting the world.”
BUT WAIT, EVEN BETTER! Here's Dove's Facebook photo album, Marching with the Westboro Baptist Church. How's that for proof?
Dark Side, it's humorous that you go around the board feebly asking Link? Link? Link? and then when graciously provided links, cherry-pick to change the subject. This is the mark of a total pu$$y.
You must have made a fine JW: Absolutely no reading comprehension, too damn lazy to do your own research, and combative when the facts challenge your closely-held beliefs.
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Pastor to burn Koran
by beksbks inus pastor says will burn koran despite petraeus concernshttp://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100907/pl_afp/afghanistanunrestusreligionislampastor.
tue sep 7, 9:21 am et end .byline washington (afp) the pastor of a small florida church said tuesday he will go ahead with his plans to hold a koran burning this week, despite warnings by the us commander of the afghan war of violent reactions in the islamic world.terry jones, who heads the dove world outreach center in gainesville florida, said he had given "serious" consideration to the concerns expressed by general david petraeus over plans to torch a koran to mark the ninth anniversary of the september 11 terror attacks, but said he would proceed anyway.. "we are taking the general's words very serious.
we are continuing to pray about the action on september 11th," he said.. nevertheless, he said "we have firmly made up our mind" to go ahead with burning the muslim holy book.. "i mean, how long, when does america stand for truth?
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Link?
Burning Koran endangers troops-PERIOD!
’Burn a Koran’ Pastor’s New BFF: Phelps’ ’God Hates Fags’ Crew
Google is your friend.
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Any 'Humanists' here?
by AK - Jeff incare to share your particular weltanschauung ?.
how do you approach life in general?
how do you convey to others your opines on life, love and laughter?.
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Good topic, AK - Jeff! Humanism seems a natural progression for many leaving behind organized religion, but isn't necessarily a "belief" system in and of itself. That being said…
cognizant dissident: "I'm not sure if there is an official Humanist Organization and what their list of values is. I guess I would have to read that before I would agree to label myself as one."
Here ya' go, from http://www.secularhumanism.org/:The Affirmations of Humanism: A Statement of Principles
• We are committed to the application of reason and science to the understanding of the universe and to the solving of human problems.
• We deplore efforts to denigrate human intelligence, to seek to explain the world in supernatural terms, and to look outside nature for salvation.
• We believe that scientific discovery and technology can contribute to the betterment of human life.
• We believe in an open and pluralistic society and that democracy is the best guarantee of protecting human rights from authoritarian elites and repressive majorities.
• We are committed to the principle of the separation of church and state.
• We cultivate the arts of negotiation and compromise as a means of resolving differences and achieving mutual understanding.
• We are concerned with securing justice and fairness in society and with eliminating discrimination and intolerance.
• We believe in supporting the disadvantaged and the handicapped so that they will be able to help themselves.
• We attempt to transcend divisive parochial loyalties based on race, religion, gender, nationality, creed, class, sexual orientation, or ethnicity, and strive to work together for the common good of humanity.
• We want to protect and enhance the earth, to preserve it for future generations, and to avoid inflicting needless suffering on other species.
• We believe in enjoying life here and now and in developing our creative talents to their fullest.
• We believe in the cultivation of moral excellence.
• We respect the right to privacy. Mature adults should be allowed to fulfill their aspirations, to express their sexual preferences, to exercise reproductive freedom, to have access to comprehensive and informed health-care, and to die with dignity.
• We believe in the common moral decencies: altruism, integrity, honesty, truthfulness, responsibility. Humanist ethics is amenable to critical, rational guidance. There are normative standards that we discover together. Moral principles are tested by their consequences.
• We are deeply concerned with the moral education of our children. We want to nourish reason and compassion.
• We are engaged by the arts no less than by the sciences.
• We are citizens of the universe and are excited by discoveries still to be made in the cosmos.
• We are skeptical of untested claims to knowledge, and we are open to novel ideas and seek new departures in our thinking.
• We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal significance and genuine satisfaction in the service to others.
• We believe in optimism rather than pessimism, hope rather than despair, learning in the place of dogma, truth instead of ignorance, joy rather than guilt or sin, tolerance in the place of fear, love instead of hatred, compassion over selfishness, beauty instead of ugliness, and reason rather than blind faith or irrationality.
• We believe in the fullest realization of the best and noblest that we are capable of as human beings.* * *
I too, am not one for pigeon-holing people with labels. Yet far too many of these "humanist" principles resonate within me, not to call myself a "Secular Humanist," simply as a practical matter.Especially when I'm called out on my lack of faith/disbelief, or what I like to call the journey.
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Can you help me find the lightest cell phones?
by asilentone inany recommendations?
yes, i did use the google search engine, but i did not find it very helpful..
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Best Songs used by Movies
by Darth plaugeis inok best sex scenes in movies are up right now, how about songs that have been out for years then used in a movie and will always be tied to that movie???.
my fav is this one.... never heard the song the same way.
stuck in the middle with you/ stealers wheels.
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Another Jake Gyllenhaal flick… "Bubble Boy" meets the Bright and Shiny friends.
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Best Songs used by Movies
by Darth plaugeis inok best sex scenes in movies are up right now, how about songs that have been out for years then used in a movie and will always be tied to that movie???.
my fav is this one.... never heard the song the same way.
stuck in the middle with you/ stealers wheels.
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(Apologies if this was posted already... Donnie Darko fan here.)
Donnie Darko - Head Over Heels
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NEW PUPPY - names?
by AWAKE&WATCHING inwell we are getting a new pup and i'm not set on a name yet.
it is a sweet baby girl cairn terrier (like toto).
she is wheaten, which is a blonde color.. she will be coming home to big brother jinx (meaning magic charm or spell), who is a red brindle color.. i have thought of many names but can't decide.. i really like gypsy (goes well with jinx), but don't like it for such a blonde pup.
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beksbks said: Glinda. The "good witch" name truly complements Jinx.
(I played Glinda in a grade school production of the Wizard of Oz where I got to carry a construction paper star taped to a yardstick, yay!
My JW mother didn't object, in fact she sewed my costume, a frilly pinafore getup, but no wings.)
Saskia, from "Saxons" who are often blonde, also the name of painter Rembrandt's wife if you have an artistic bent.Summer, all light-filled and warm, and that's the time of year she joined your family.
Best wishes with your new puppy!
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White People are victims of racism too.
by donny inyou need to look no further than the well acclaimed glenn beck show to find proof that white folks (a.k.a.
"light-skinned") are viticms of racism from obama!
mr. president open your eyes, this is a racist tax!!.
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Would raising the tax on sunblock products also constitute racism?
No. Sunblock is a vital healthcare (cancer prevention) product for many of us, regardless of ethnic heritage.
Along with birth control and other preventative measures, it shouldn't be taxed at all.
~Sue
