Posts by betterdaze

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Seeking Source material

by Doug Mason in

i am calling on the combined scholarship of this site to help me with my research..

under the subheading of “who selected the canon?”, pages 27-28 of the watchtower of april 1, 2010 quotes professor oskar skarsaune and professor kenneth berding..

the watchtower writes:.

betterdaze

Oskar Skarsuane’s email address and authorship lists at the Norwegian School of Theology.

Untranslated link: http://www.mf.no/en/kompetanse/person/40

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Kinda Sad Re: Cart "Witnessing"

by Captain Schmideo2 in

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slightly redacted for privacy of those involved.. so, this is "park witnessing" in oklahoma.. the parks in this community are basically walking trails and some tatty playground equipment.

most of the time, sparsely used, and today was a very blustery day.. notice the justifying comment- "quite a few" checking out the cart.

i am sure they were..... .

What I thought CLAM meant , can you think of anymore ?

by smiddy in

for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .

christ left a ministry , or meeting .

children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).

betterdaze

Here's one for the sisters:

Careful Learning Angers Menfolk

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What I thought CLAM meant , can you think of anymore ?

by smiddy in

for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .

christ left a ministry , or meeting .

children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).

What I thought CLAM meant , can you think of anymore ?

by smiddy in

for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .

christ left a ministry , or meeting .

children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).

betterdaze

Corporate Lies, Ancient Myths

Crooks, Liars And Motherfxxxxxs

Criminal Lawyers Acting Mafiosa

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Books I read when I deprogrammed

by OrphanCrow in

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blondie suggested someone start a thread with a list of books that are valuable to read when exiting the jws.. i will start.. i left the jws way back in the early 70s and didn't actually deprogram until into the 80s.. one of the first books i read was "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses" by gary and heather botting.

canadian exjws from calagary.

an excellent book and one that still resonates with young people today.

betterdaze

WorldCat.org lets you find an item of interest and then locate a library near you that owns it. Usually you will link directly to the item record on the library's Web site. The actions available to you on that page will vary from one library to another. You may be able to join a waiting list, reserve the item, check it out or even have it shipped or delivered.

Once the book is in legitimate hard copy circulation, it would be a good idea to go to the library systems and get them to purchase a copy. Libraries have purchasing budgets for patron requests.

There was always the issue of CoC disappearing from collections. Active JW’s would check them out and “lose” them. Or just outright steal.

There was no workaround years ago. Now, libraries are loading up Kindles for loan (with a small, refundable deposit).

Helps with privacy issues, too.

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"Fa La La"

by OnTheWayOut in

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out at the mall with mrs. otwo, she sees a shirt on the rack that was marked down from $25 to just $4.

she holds it up and says, "should i buy this as a workout shirt?".

i tell her "no, because as soon as you figure out what it means, you won't wear it anymore.

betterdaze

"It has absolutely no meaning."

Yeah, but one day it's...

And the next thing you know...

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Witnesses pledge $5.5M to fix crummy Dumbo park

by OrphanCrow in

witnesses pledge $5.5m to fix crummy dumbo park.

they will clean up before they leave.the jehovahs witnesses will give the city $5.5 million to overhaul a run-down dumbo park the organization promised to make-over more than a decade ago as part of a lucrative rezoning deal, after local pols demanded the group finally honor its pledge before it sells all its land and decamps from the borough for good.the sect officially the watchtower bible and tract society believes the money will be enough to cover its share of the long-stalled plans for the land.watchtower has set aside this amount to cover the funds officials estimated the city would need to take over this project and complete the current vision for the park, the group told this paper.the religious outfit offered to fix the moribund bridge park 2 a slab of crumbling concrete next to york street station and quite possibly the crummiest park in the city in 2004, when the city agreed to let the group build a huge housing complex on a massive parking lot next door at 85 jay st.plans at the time included a turf baseball field, a new playground, and a lighted path from the subway station to the neighboring farragut houses development.but watchtower never actually built the new property, and the planning process for the park facelift dragged for years through various design permeations, eventually hitting an impasse over cost and labor the witnesses wanted to use its members as volunteer workers, which is not how the city typically does business.the groups announcement last month that it is selling 85 jay st. now incredibly valuable thanks to the residential rezoning as part of its mass exodus from the neighborhood it has long called home sparked renewed calls for the witnesses to keep their vow and put some of the massive windfall to good use.it is unacceptable that since the watchtower committed to work with the parks department, over 11 years have passed, the site has seen no improvements, and remains a piece of barren asphalt, a host of local pols and business leaders wrote in a letter to the organization in december.it remains to be seen whether $5.5 million will be enough to take the park from drab to fab, however the parks department said it cant estimate the total costs without a concrete plan for the park in place.

watchtower honchos say they have one ready, based on the citys most recent requests for the site, which now include a skate park and a multipurpose field.those pushing for the park renewal say they also want more details before celebrating, but the pledge is still good news.without seeing the details, that seems like a significant step in the right direction, said councilman steve levin (dboerum hill), one of the letter-writing pols.

betterdaze

At the end of the article, we find out a little bit more about the Managing Partner of Taurus Capital LLC, a Reibling company.

Orphan Crow, I sincerely appreciate your sleuthing efforts and follow them closely. However, you’ve made a false connection that requires correcting.

Howard Zemsky owns Taurus Capital Partners, a private equity firm in Buffalo. His projects focus on Buffalo and western NY state.

Riebling’s Taurus Investment Holdings, a global real estate company based in Boston (with a NYC office) is a completely different entity. Mr. Zemsky has no affiliation with them other than a similar name. Dozens of registered companies all throughout the U.S. carry the name "Taurus".

Zemsky’s recent (January 2015) appointment to Empire State Development is a state-wide agency stewardship role that has had, and will, have some oversight with DUMBO projects going forward. Mr. Zemsky was never involved with the Watchtower’s rezoning efforts prior, and specifically NOT through the Reiblings at all.

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If JWs were to change their name what would they change it to?

by slimboyfat in

was it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?

(at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?

i mean everything else is changing why not the name!

betterdaze

Well, Big Brother and the Holding Company is already taken…

How about Bank of Yahweh — "Where the Prey Pay to Pray"?

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Changed Will Watchtower You Get Nothing!

by Hadriel in

as i mentioned last week i'm a covert fade.

it dawned on me that i had the watchtower bible and tract society in my will.

i just changed it.

betterdaze

There is zero chance Christ would act in this manner or have such a structure that would weaponize family. … That just can't be right.

Luke 12:

Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.

Matthew 10:

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn

a man against his father,  a daughter against her mother,  a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.

Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

That's your Jesus weaponizing family in the Bible record.

I remember trying to shove square pegs into round holes, too. Wish you and your family all the best going forward!