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  Global Warming - it's happening right now, how will you respond?

  by truthseeker in

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  this is really worrying.... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11951694/.

  whatever the causes, whether you think it's global warming or just another cycle, millions of people will be affected and so will the animal kingdom.

  how will you respond if the worst happens, and the sea starts lapping at your front door?

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  Gregor

  Isn't it wonderful that our creator made amoeba's and other parasites to inhabit faeces (lying in wait for our unsuspecting footstep) and bore their way through our skin and lodge in our organs.
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  GB claims divinity for anointed

  by hallelujah in

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  in the "insight on the scriptures" book at page 474 and 639 the wtbts states that the anointed are divine in nature.

  divine in strong's hebrew lexiconography is defined as sovereign, and in greek lexiconography as theos, or godhead or divinity (see strong's lexicon excerpts below the excerpts from insight book).. divine.

  nature.

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  There is a scripture I like though.

  John 14:23 "Jesus replied, "if anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and ;we will come to him and ;make our home with him."

  that's beautiful, Star Moore. I was amazed by Nathaniel Merritt's book which salvaged the idea that Jesus father is not the satanic and murderous Yahweh elohim (Jehovah).
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  Coptic translation of Revelation 3:14

  by slimboyfat in

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  in an earlier thread i mentioned how witnesses are using the sahidic coptic translation to support their view on john 1:1. now witness apologists are pointing out that revelation 3:14 supports their view that this verse teaches that jesus is god's first creation.

  whereas the greek uses a word that might be construed to mean "origin" or "ruler" rather than "beginning", the coptic word used is said to mean purely "beginning.

  i wonder why the society have not made use of this before.

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  The WTBTS can't get past the fact that in the elohist tradition (Genesis 1) it was elohim (the gods? a god? god?) which created creation and in the Yahwist tradition (Genesis ii.4) it was Yahweh (Jehovah) that created creation.

  So the idea that Jesus created creation can't sit squarely with Genesis ii.4, and it can only sit squarely with Genesis i.1 if Jesus IS elohim -THE elohim, or at least an elohim.

  Sorry I'm too new to all of this to get past the first two chapters of the bible.
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  GB claims divinity for anointed

  by hallelujah in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the "insight on the scriptures" book at page 474 and 639 the wtbts states that the anointed are divine in nature.

  divine in strong's hebrew lexiconography is defined as sovereign, and in greek lexiconography as theos, or godhead or divinity (see strong's lexicon excerpts below the excerpts from insight book).. divine.

  nature.

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  Hi Hallelujah..You must be a christian? ; Your name. ; I'm thinking it sounds elite for people to call themselves, anointed.. ; I'd rather say, I've had a born-again experience..but then i sound like a born-again.. ; ; ; ; I've been thinking the other sheep, might be the people who Jesus saves at the great tribulation who are not true christians..but people of every religion, nation, even atheist but have a good heart... and want peace and justice and take a stand for the Christ without them even realizing it. ; ; What do you think? ; ;

  Hi Star Moore

  Yes I'm the same. I'm a believer that Christ lived and that he taught and that we should take notice of what he actually taught, things like turn the other cheek, love thy enemies, forgive them for they know not what they do. This I believe shines through the adulteration of the scriptures, the insertion of magic, numerology, prophecy, divination, deification. I believe Jesus teaching saves - not the legends of Mary's virginity, walking on water, turning water into wine, the loaves and the fishes, the raising the dead etcetera etcetera for how are we to know who wrote it, when, and with what motivation. Jesus teaching saves because it tells us that he, a man, son of mankind _ho'adam, loved me, a sinner, and so I can love and forgive me. I'm trying to take in what I just wrote.

  PS what do all the nbsp, lol (lot's of love???) & all the other abbreviations which I have no idea of mean???

  Dan
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  "Turned aside after Satan."?

  by scout575 in

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  the nt contains several references to christians abandoning christianity.

  they are referred to as having "turned aside after satan" ( 1 tim 5:15 ), as being like "the dog that is turned to his own vomit.

  " ( 2 peter 2:22 ), as being the "enemies of the cross of christ" ( php 3:18 ), and as being "not of us" ( 1 john 2:19 ).

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  Is there depression in the new system???

  by hallelujah in

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  cause there's certainly depression in the wt world.

  dan

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  At least in Catholic hell there's freedom of thought and religeon.
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  Is there depression in the new system???

  by hallelujah in

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  cause there's certainly depression in the wt world.

  dan

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  The thought of being resurrected just to sing Kingdom melodies all day doesn't inspire me at all.
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  "Turned aside after Satan."?

  by scout575 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the nt contains several references to christians abandoning christianity.

  they are referred to as having "turned aside after satan" ( 1 tim 5:15 ), as being like "the dog that is turned to his own vomit.

  " ( 2 peter 2:22 ), as being the "enemies of the cross of christ" ( php 3:18 ), and as being "not of us" ( 1 john 2:19 ).

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  We have to look at the bible as less authentic than something we might read on wikipedia. Only it was altered and rewritten over centuries while anything on wikipedia might have only been edited over the last few years.

  Nevertheless there are teachings from Jesus which are capable of being salvaged out of the Bible (and it's got nothing to do with walking on water or making wine out of water)
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  Is there depression in the new system???

  by hallelujah in

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  cause there's certainly depression in the wt world.

  dan

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  If I say Jahweh/Jehovah is satan, well according to WT theology I'll die and be resurrected to ask if I repent and if not I'll be struck dead again never to be reborn. According to Catholic theology I'll go to eternal hell. Well hell sounds better than nothing.

  If according to Catholic theology, I'm in hell, presumably I can continue to call Yahweh satan. Satan (Yahweh) would presumably be offended by this and increase the punishment exponentially, infinitely, and eternally. But I'd still be free to call Yahweh Satan.

  Not like in the new system
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  Global Warming - it's happening right now, how will you respond?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is really worrying.... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11951694/.

  whatever the causes, whether you think it's global warming or just another cycle, millions of people will be affected and so will the animal kingdom.

  how will you respond if the worst happens, and the sea starts lapping at your front door?

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  TS

  Dog poo is wonderful fertiliser.