Posts by hallelujah

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No fabrication in Gospels

by Shining One in

http://www.rzim.org/publications/jttran.php?seqid=52 .

"what cannot be doubted is that many new testament critics have approached the gospels with an utterly unjustified skepticism--a skepticism that wouldn't be considered justified in any other branch of ancient history.

new testament scholar r. t. france declares that "at the level of their literary and historical character we have good reason to treat the gospels as a source of information on the life and teachings of jesus, and thus on the historical origins of christianity.

hallelujah

There are some very interesting links between Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions about Jesus (but that's another topic I guess).

This is something which is very relevant in today's world. The concept of virgin birth due to divine intervention into the womb of Mary is really quite an abhorent speculation. This is another of those definitive issues which persuaded me that the Bible is a man made myth. While I am still inclined to think that Jesus did exist, and was a man, and a good man, I have no intrinsic faith in the words ascribed to him, other than that they stand or fall on their own merits. JW's believe that Jesus is divine. The WTBTS believes that Jesus is not God, but that God implanted his seed in Mary's womb, literally. As for the gospel stories about his birth and death, these are in terms of Christianity given far more importance than the teachings ascribed to him - such as love thy enemies, turn the other cheek, etc which are routinely ignored.

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No fabrication in Gospels

by Shining One in

http://www.rzim.org/publications/jttran.php?seqid=52 .

"what cannot be doubted is that many new testament critics have approached the gospels with an utterly unjustified skepticism--a skepticism that wouldn't be considered justified in any other branch of ancient history.

new testament scholar r. t. france declares that "at the level of their literary and historical character we have good reason to treat the gospels as a source of information on the life and teachings of jesus, and thus on the historical origins of christianity.

hallelujah

Shining One If the Bible contains no error then why does the book of Mark have alternative endings?

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YHWH - Ya'Wa' - revealed (Not Jehovah or Yahweh)

by hallelujah in

both the catholic and jehovah's witness anthropomorphisize yhwh, but in reality the word should be pronounced as yawa - or ya'wa'.. in ancient sanskrit, a short "a" is the default vowel.

this is not limited to sanskrit but is a universal and generic default vowel and the most common vowel sound in most languages.

the "h" simply means that the short vowel "a" is forcefully aspirated.

hallelujah

This makes at least a three-syllable form such as Yehowah almost impossible, and Yahweh, otoh, ;quite a plausible one.

Hi Nark

A very good book in this regard is "IS IT GOD'S WORD" by Joseph Wheless (published 1926)

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/joseph_wheless/is_it_gods_word/

According to this author YHWH is more correctly pronounced Yaho - though I accept that your reasoning may have some validity notwithstanding that language can easily change over a thousand years especially when it is translated into another language.

According to Wheless - god is referred to as YY in Gen ii:4. This is of course translated as Jehovah in the New World Translation which is clearly wrong.

(P.S. unfortunately Wheless did subscribe to the theory current among white Australians and Americans that the so-called "aryan race" was the noble race. I mention this because Wheless is so bold as to state that "this my book speaks truly" but of course in regards to "the aryan race" his book speaks falsely - there is no such thing as an aryan race. Apart from this unfortunate lapse his book does ring true to me.

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I'm gonna die

by Jourles in

jw
friends

well, that's what my wife tells me anyway.

i just bought a new bike yesterday.

i have to wait about a week and a half before it comes in, but i think i can manage.. here it is plain from the factory:.

hallelujah

Sounds like great fun. I was driving last Friday (on the correct side of the road) when a drunken interloper from the oncoming traffic jumped the median strip and took out the front end of my car.

Just remember when you're on the road your life is in everyone elses hands

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Diary of an Unborn Child - switch your rational mind off for ten minutes.

by nicolaou in

this article from awake!

in may 1980 is an example of the worst sort of emotional argument.

i'm just going to post it, barf, and then comment later.. *** g80 5/22 p. 16 ***.

hallelujah

I'm an anti-zionist. But in my defence I refer you to Uri Davis, who is a Jewish dissenter and proudly Jewish anti-zionist.

Being anti-zionist that puts me squarely at odds with U.S., British, and Australian government policies, which are certainly yahwist zionist.

See my post;

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/25/109800/1.ashx

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Israel political party calls for ethnic cleansing of Palestinians

by hallelujah in

http://www.moledet.org.il/english/moledet.html .

http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/hamas.htm.

http://umkahlil.blogspot.com/2006/01/aya-al-astal-and-mounadel-forgotten-on.html.

hallelujah

Not a very political bunch are we???

Dan

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YHWH - Ya'Wa' - revealed (Not Jehovah or Yahweh)

by hallelujah in

both the catholic and jehovah's witness anthropomorphisize yhwh, but in reality the word should be pronounced as yawa - or ya'wa'.. in ancient sanskrit, a short "a" is the default vowel.

this is not limited to sanskrit but is a universal and generic default vowel and the most common vowel sound in most languages.

the "h" simply means that the short vowel "a" is forcefully aspirated.

hallelujah

Hi Leolaia

I just got so sick of everyone giving YHWH such a nice little name (Yahweh or Jehovah) simply because it sounds nicer than yawa (or yhwh).

Clearly YHWH is not meant to be pronounced in four separate capitals sounded in English - Why Aich DoubleU Aich.

So I am thinking that this figment of so many disturbed imaginations- YHWH - which has resulted in so much killing in it's "name" should just be read off the page as it is without any added grace.

So in my view ya'wa', or possibly yach'wach' (since Hebrew has a penchant for gutterals) is a more fitting pronunciation and is no more or less correct than Yahweh and certainly far more accurate than Jehovah.

Since the YHWH of WT theology and JW imagination will kill at Armagedon all those who do not do obeisance to HIS () name, the WTBTS really ought to have dreamed up something closer to YHWH than "Jehoovah".

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YHWH - Ya'Wa' - revealed (Not Jehovah or Yahweh)

by hallelujah in

both the catholic and jehovah's witness anthropomorphisize yhwh, but in reality the word should be pronounced as yawa - or ya'wa'.. in ancient sanskrit, a short "a" is the default vowel.

this is not limited to sanskrit but is a universal and generic default vowel and the most common vowel sound in most languages.

the "h" simply means that the short vowel "a" is forcefully aspirated.

hallelujah

Yo Pole

Thats axactly haw I thank it goas

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YHWH - Ya'Wa' - revealed (Not Jehovah or Yahweh)

by hallelujah in

both the catholic and jehovah's witness anthropomorphisize yhwh, but in reality the word should be pronounced as yawa - or ya'wa'.. in ancient sanskrit, a short "a" is the default vowel.

this is not limited to sanskrit but is a universal and generic default vowel and the most common vowel sound in most languages.

the "h" simply means that the short vowel "a" is forcefully aspirated.

hallelujah

YAWA,

I did a unit in Sanskrit - and a little Hindi. When no vowel is specified, a short "a" is the default vowel which goes with the consonant.

So "L" is pronounced "La" unless otherwise specified.

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YHWH - Ya'Wa' - revealed (Not Jehovah or Yahweh)

by hallelujah in

both the catholic and jehovah's witness anthropomorphisize yhwh, but in reality the word should be pronounced as yawa - or ya'wa'.. in ancient sanskrit, a short "a" is the default vowel.

this is not limited to sanskrit but is a universal and generic default vowel and the most common vowel sound in most languages.

the "h" simply means that the short vowel "a" is forcefully aspirated.

hallelujah

Both the Catholic and Jehovah's Witness anthropomorphisize YHWH, but in reality the word should be pronounced as YaWa - or Ya'Wa'.

In ancient sanskrit, a short "a" is the default vowel. This is not limited to sanskrit but is a universal and generic default vowel and the most common vowel sound in most languages. The "H" simply means that the short vowel "a" is forcefully aspirated.

Hence the correct pronunciation is in my view simply YaWa or mort correctly Ya'Wa'