Damn! Just imagine what would have happened if God copyrighted the Bible.
I guess the "truth" isn't meant for everyone eh?
i got this email earlier:hi, did you know that you may not publish the kingdom ministry at any way?
please remove that page.. didn't think it would amount to much - just another dub throwing his weight around on an apostate site he shouldn't be visiting.
however, i just received a demand from my web host to remove the kms or lose my website.
Damn! Just imagine what would have happened if God copyrighted the Bible.
I guess the "truth" isn't meant for everyone eh?
back when i joined the site i had lots of concerns and i was given some great advice by some special people here.
i'll miss you.
but the time has come for me to move on.
LB - I will miss you. I understand how you feel. There is a lot of anger in posts here right now - but I think it is because so many new ones have joined on and they need to vent.
I just log on once or twice a week now, scan through the topics and read only those that appear interesting or uplifting. Perhaps after a break you will feel like coming back and joining us - I sure hope so. I have really enjoyed your posts - and especially your sense of humor.
Best of luck to you and your family.
i've been doing some research using the "kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures" - you remember that one with the purple cover?
it has the greek language on one side and the nwt on the other.. i'm trying to find all of the scriptures where worship or obesience was used.
of course, i have noticed a very obvious pattern - although the same greek root word is used in all instances - if it applies to jesus it is translated obesience, but anywhere else it is translated worship.. now i've been told all my life that jesus did not allow people to worship him - hence, he couldn't possibly be god.
I've been doing some research using the "Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures" - you remember that one with the purple cover? It has the greek language on one side and the NWT on the other.
I'm trying to find all of the scriptures where worship or obesience was used. Of course, I have noticed a very obvious pattern - although the same greek root word is used in ALL instances - if it applies to Jesus it is translated OBESIENCE, but anywhere else it is translated WORSHIP.
Now I've been told all my life that Jesus did not allow people to worship him - hence, he couldn't possibly be God. Yet - I find NOWHERE in the New Testament where he refused worship. The only thing I find is that by using the New World Translation it would not be so obvious that he was worshiped because the word is translated OBESIENCE - all other translations use the word WORSHIP.
So my question - obviously the translator of the NWT had his own doctrinal bias hence the reason he translated the word as OBESIENCE instead of WORSHIP. Has anyone else done research on this issue? I would like to follow up more on the OBESIENCE v WORSHIP topic.
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if you go to purelanguage.net you can read the forums - you just can't post - here's a lovely new topic posted in the study hall............... "today while reading an article i just had to stop to thank jehovah for all of the spiritual food he provides....and thank him so very much for the slave class that loves us, works so diligently to fulfill their assignment given to them by our lord and feeds us sooooo can't find the word............".
let me finish......and feeds us.....................crap
If you go to purelanguage.net you can read the forums - you just can't post - here's a lovely new topic posted in the Study Hall..............
" Today while reading an article I just had to stop to thank Jehovah for all of the spiritual food he provides....and thank him so very much for the slave class that loves us, works so diligently to fulfill their assignment given to them by our lord and feeds us sooooo can't find the word............"
Let me finish......and feeds us.....................CRAP
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for some, there is real fear that they must speak to the elders if they decide to stop by your house .some don't know what they will do if the elders begin questioning them.
what will you do if they want to talk to you?
"What will you do if they want to talk to you?"
I feel no obligation whatsoever - no more than I feel obligated to answer questions from my grocer's bag boy.
However - I would LOVE to have them come by for a "shepherding" call - you know, the ones they're supposed to make. I have lots of fun questions that I could ask and maybe plant some seeds.
I see them now as lost sheep and if I could help steer them in the right direction that would be great. But they have no authority over me.
today i was at work and a jw slipped a watchtower and awake in the mail slot.in the awake there is an article titled "is there an unforgivable sin?
" here is a paragraph that caught my eye.. some people who were once faithful christians have purposely drawn away from god,perhaps because of bitterness,pride, or greed, and are now "apostate fighters" against god's spirit.they willfully oppose what the spirit is clearly accomplishing.
have these induividuals committed the unforgiveable sin?
"have purposely drawn away from God"
........um.......well.........since I now study my bible MORE and pray MORE and actually witness about Jesus MORE..........I guess that doesn't really apply does it?
I am vocal about an ORGANIZATION that draws people away from GOD. Guess that makes me a "FREEDOM FIGHTER" YEEHAA!!
as a jw, we were always told that god was blessing us, because we were doing his will.
jw's saw god's hand everywhere in our lives.
if we had good news, a good job, good health, it was because god was blessing us.
"we are buying a house together as well as the trimmings, (mmm a swimming pool for next summer)"
pool???? pool??? did I hear POOL??????????????
And we're invited when?
having grown up in the jw teaching till the age of 21 and having an alcoholic/abusive father not to mention other f*%$ed up past elements of my life .. i have to say i am overall looking forward to my future as i'm now free of jw oppression.
but what i have notice a great deal in this forum is there alot of x-jws that are very bitter about their past lives and seem completely focused on how f*%$ed up their lives have been.
they don't seem to have an ounce of positveness to their attitude and this concerns me.
Hey Monkey:
How goes it?!
I guess I'm a little of both. I am really excited and happy about the life I have now, and I look forward to the future. But I still get sad and angry at times about the JW past - probably the biggest reason is that I still have to deal with the shunning crap from time to time and JW stuff from my mom & siblings. Not to mention the lost time..........
But all in all - I don't think I'm any more messed up than the average person (ha ha) - almost everyone has some experiences from their past that affect who they are today. I'm just one of the average - some good things in the past, some bad things in the past. It's just that the bad things (some JW) can be shared and be a help to others that are going through it right now - probably why many of us are so vocal about it.
just wondering, how many of you were a glutton for punishment and kept on going back and getting re-instated after succesive disfellowshippings?
i was disfellwshipped twice, the first time i was re-instated six months after and then six months later i was df'd again, then i came back in 4 years later and then a year later i faded away.
that's where i stand at the moment.
I was DF'd the first time in '86 - I thought I had no choice but to go back so was reinstated 6 months later. 4 years later I was DF'd again - only that time I WANTED OUT. I never went back.
ME TO!!!!!