Posts by Johnny

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Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

by White Dove in

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090520/ap_on_re_us/us_forced_chemo.

this is just like jws refusing blood for their kids..

Johnny

I'm sorry but I TOTALLY disgree with the comparison to the JW refusal of Blood and this young boy's parent's situation.

The Cancer INDUSTRY in the U.S. is a mUlti-billion-dollar industry, whose so-called war on cancer has lead to untold misery and death, and is NO closer to finding a "cure" today than 50 years ago. Surgery - Chemo- Radiation - DEATH! The end result SELDOM changes.

The boy's parents see the folly of keeping their son on that same path of death as SO many others before him, and are choosing a different mode of treatment.

If anything, I would say the super-powerful cancer industry is MORE like the WT Society than this family trying to excercise their own God-given rights!

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Worshipping Jehovah without all the rules?

by ptucker8357 in

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hi again.... i've been searching around for a few days now trying to understand whether or not there are spiritual folks out there who believe some of the fundamental tenents of the witness religion, but don't believe in all the rules that the gb puts forth... many of the folks that i talk to tell me that the only way to salvation is through acceptance of jesus as god.

i do accept jesus as the messiah, as a perfect man that god sent to atone for the sins of adam, but i don't believe he is god.... i believe there is one god, one son and one holy spirit and they are not three persons in one god... i feel weird whenever i go to another service that exalts the trinity, as well as some other basic rituals of their religion.... am i making sense?.

Johnny

http://www.heraldmag.org/

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Friends, Study Partners, and then GONE...

by ptucker8357 in

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about a year and 12 ago, after much conversation with a jw co-worker, we began a formal study.

we studied religiously (no pun intended) almost every week unless i was on business travel or there was a sickness or other item that precluded us from getting together.. .

during that process, we became very strong, close friends... at least that is what i thought was happening.

Johnny

Similar to a car salesman who approaches you in a very friendly manner to win your confidence, and a sale. When he realizes that your are not going to buy, he moves on to "greener pastures".

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It's not fair

by Luo bou to in

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cut off from my family rejected by my wife ( spiritual endangerment ) and there was and still is not a damn thing i can do about it.

pisses me off.... no justice.

hey i am not looking for sympathy my life is pretty good its just frustrating to have family that are not dead yet might as well be..

Johnny

Ahhh.... But there IS something that you can do about it. DON'T buy into the madness!! Treat them BETTER than normal. Show them that the problem is not with YOU, but THEM and their following of stupid man-made rules!

Be happy with yourself, but feel SORRY for THEM. Turn the table around, because it is your family that is in "spiritual danger".

"Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake." - Mat 5:11

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Introducing myself.........

by awildflower in

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hi all, i've been reading this site for about a month now and decided it was time to jump in.

it is truly a blessing to have people who know exactly what we are going through.

some background, i'll keep it short:.

Johnny

Think about it. What is the ONE ("Christian") religious organization existing today that does the MOST to SUPPRESS free thought?? The Watchtower Society!

WHAT religion today will actually kick you out for accepting GOD's word (the Bible) over THEIRS??

WHO fits Jesus following warning the best today?

"For you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing God a service." -John 16:2

synagoge:

1) a bringing together, gathering (as of fruits), a contracting

2) in the NT, an assembling together of men, an assembly of men

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Disturbing Armageddon Picture On Pg.18 of This week's JW only Watchtower

by african GB Member in

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it shows people running away crying, and fire balls coming from heaven, with angels firing arrows at them.. i really don't think this kind of picture is neccesary.. i don't know how to paste a picture here, i'd appreciate if someone could do it for everyone to see what i am talking about.. .

gb.

Johnny

The Society survives on FEAR. This should be a big RED FLAG for anyone in the Organization with doubts!! Because God does not work through FEAR, Satan does!

"There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. We love him, because he first loved us." - 1John 4:18

"God is Love!"

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Introducing myself.........

by awildflower in

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hi all, i've been reading this site for about a month now and decided it was time to jump in.

it is truly a blessing to have people who know exactly what we are going through.

some background, i'll keep it short:.

Johnny

Wildflower,

You mentioned something that I too have often thought of: "I think this org is in trouble because of the internet."

This may sound silly, but sometimes I wonder if the internet is not alluded to in scripture??

"And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth." - Rev12:16

Just a thought.

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The "swagger" of the Organization is gone - or is it my imagination?

by BonaFide in

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i am in my early forties.

grew up in the truth.

i remember talks at the assemblies by the governing body in the 80's.

Johnny

At least in the States and probably other "1st world" nations, the "swagger" seems to be gone. You can only fool the people for so long, and most in these countries are smelling something seriously wrong.

However, as one who also was associated with the Spanish-speaking congregations in the U.S., I can say that the "swagger" is going at full-steam in a Latin American countries. Most of those associated in those countries are very "new" in the organization and know next to nothing about its history. When I speak to them about things I know about the Organization, they look at me like I am absolutely NUTS.

I would bet that the same is the case for other third-world nations around the world.

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HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH DISAPPOINTMENT ? FORGIVE OR FESTER ?

by Sad Michael in

i'm sorry for ruffling feathers here.

i seem to be quite good at it lately, as my wife has adopted apostate views ( you know what i mean) and seems to have found a new calling in trying to "free" all those who will listen.

i get all the other side of the coin i can handle right here.

Johnny

Funny that you mention this Sadmichael: "If I tell you something that I really believe is true, and later find out it's not, would it be better to let you believe I thought all along it was true, or tell you when I found out?"

Because I have always found it interesting that the Society NEVER says, "we were wrong". Is not that the first step towards forgiveness?

Where is their humility??

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My JW Daughter sends a Letter to us Explaining her Shunning of Me

by flipper in

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my wife and i sent my 22 yr.old pioneer witness daughter and her husband a anniversary card and $ 40.00 and flowers the end of april.

my daughter wrote mrs. flipper and me each our own individual letters thanking us initially for the gifts - and then went into detail as to why she has not spoken to me for over a year and shunned me.. keep in mind as i paraphrase some of the highlights to these letters that the only negative thing i have said about the organization to my daughter in 3 years was to show her the ap news release about the child abuse settlements by the wt society .

i'll quote parts of the letter to mrs. flipper first :.

Johnny

flipper,

I saw my brother go through a very similar thing. He was not invited to his only two daughter's weddings, and has never seen any of his grandchildren.

I thank God all the time that his spirit pulled us out before it got to that point, but we still did not come out unscathed.

God's spirit rescued you and it can rescue your daughter too; don't forget it.

Pray!! Because reason alone may not be able to penetrate the darkness that surrounds her!

"The light shines through the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it." - John 1:5