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  Harry Holt - JW elder sexually assaulted 8 girls over 4 decades

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. child-abuse

  church elder who sexually abused vulnerable children was invited to speak at first victim’s wedding.

  a church elder who sexually abused vulnerable children was invited to speak at his first victim’s wedding, a court heard.. a court was told harry holt, 71, now of rutland street, nelson, went on to attack seven more girls as young as nine after the jehovah’s witnesses failed to report him to police.when the matter was raised, a local beat officer advised parents to ‘just keep your children away from him’, the court heard.. holt is facing a lengthy prison sentence after being convicted of attacks against eight girls in scotland dating back over 40 years.. .

  full article at link..

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  "A church spokesman said: 'Jehovah's Witnesses abhor child abuse and view it as both a despicable crime and a sin'."

  Quote from February 8, 1965 Awake page 12:

  It is the fundamental badness of modern society that causes its most advanced rehabilitation efforts to fail. On this point the book Man, Crime and Society , by Herbert Bloch observed: "Some writers see this as an indication that the roots of criminal activity lie much deeper than any therapeutic potentiality of the most enlightened program. They take it as evidence of the fact that the genesis of criminal activity lies most basically within the culture itself and the alteration of the culture is the only potentially effective inhibitor of crime."

  The ARC is onto something in JW land.
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  OK!!!!ITS ME!!!!

  by brandnew in

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  2. friends

  so y'all dont think im always a lil mad puppy 😂😂😂.

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  I can't quite tell from the angle of the picture. Is that an FLH?
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  Talk on "Reaching Out"-Only What BOE Thinks Matters

  by Simon Templar in

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  2. experiences

  for the “living as christians” section of the workbook, “are you reaching out?” talk (15 min), the bethelite gave this talk at the meeting.

  he totally departed from the subject matter which is the watchtower of september 15, 2014, pages 3-6. he was so far off the reservation, it wasn't funny.

  here are a few highlights of what was said: 1) if any brother asked why they haven’t been appointed, and wants to know if there is a problem or condition that exists, that brother is too “presumptuous” and therefore, can’t be used.

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  "Most of what happens in JW congregations ( appointments, disfellowshippings, granting of "privileges", etc.) is decided solely on the personal whims of the men who have been conferred with "authority". - sir82

  SEE ANY SIMILARITIES?
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  Brothers - Reach Out for a Fine Work!

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c1ixarr31y.

  they must really be having issues finding brothers to slave for the org..

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  "As long as you are acquisitive, envious, ambitious, seeking power, position, prestige, society approves of it; and on that you base your action. That action is considered respectable, moral. But it is not moral at all. Power in any form is evil: the power of the husband over the wife or the wife over the husband, the power of the politicians. The more tyrannical, the more bigoted, the more religious the power, the more evil it is. That is a fact. a provable, observable fact, but society approves of it......... So, if you observe that your action is based on acquisitiveness of power, on the desire to succeed, on the desire to be somebody............., then facing the fact will bring about a totally different action, and that is true action, not the action which society has imposed upon the individual. So, social morality is not morality at all; it is immoral; it is another form of defending ourselves, and therefore we are gradually being destroyed by society." - J. Krishnamurti
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  Overlapping Generation

  by pandorasbox1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

  his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

  no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

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  I am of the opinion that some 'brain dead' member of the Governing Body (tm) helpers committee came up with the idea of applying 'overlapping generations economic theory' to Jehovah's Witnesses problem of how to explain away the 1914 generation teaching. Look what the fools did with three loaves of bread!
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  Your Favorite Poetry

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thank you, dear friends, for expressing your thoughts today on the importance of the arts in your lives.

  many years ago, a number of threads were devoted to poetry, literature, even english grammar.

  rather than resurrect an old thread -- usually with zero results -- i would like to introduce a new post, asking you to add some of your favorite verse.

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  "Forgive, O Lord, my little jokes on Thee

  And I'll forgive Thy great big one on me." - Robert Frost
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  FEB 2016 broadcast

  by Grey Goose in

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  2. friends

  it might be the craziest one yet..

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  "Next maybe Elmo and Big Bird can help us understand really complex things like 607." - ttdtt PRICELESS!!!!!!
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  Why would anyone choose to support Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by Half banana in

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  2. beliefs

  what is the point of supporting a belief which began as a bronze age ox-headed idol called yahweh... in a religion designed for illiterate peasants now appropriated by a money-driven cult with a one hundred and forty six year unbroken record of total failure of its bible based predictions?.

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  "I did study virtually all religions before converting from Presbyterian."
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  MY Bethel Experience Part 17

  by new boy in

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  2. experiences

  more "odds and ends".

  i liked lyman swingle (governing body member)......he was from alabama, he knew how to curse at the right time.

  i think, that’s why i went to him, when i was having so much trouble with my future wife’s parents.

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  Your posts are great new boy and SPOT ON! Lyman Swingle was a character and mostly was his own man. I remember vividly a dedication talk he gave at the Highland NY kingdom hall in the mid 70's about true religion versus false religion. He went on and on about 'the goddess Venus who was the original Whore of Heaven that went around have immoral SEX with the other gods. Finally she had a bastard son named Cupid that went around shooting arrows at other minor gods causing them to fornicate indiscriminately. All that little bastard Cupid was interested in was SEX!'. It was a hilarious talk and there were some quizzical looks on lots of faces in the audience.

  An interesting side note about the 'apostate' you call 'Mr. Frog'. If it is who I think it is, his name was Bill Norris. My family was friends with his ex-wife and her family. The story goes that he went through Gilead but did not graduate and while there got engaged to another student. 'Papa' Knorr was not happy about this at all and sent Bills betrothed out on assignment to a foreign country thereby splitting up the couple. (Of course, the girl could have chosen Bill over her assignment but we all know what the organization can do to normal human emotions , feelings and attachments.) At any rate, he married another woman but his being flunked out of Gilead and then losing his first love took a toll on his marriage. After having two children he left his wife and moved to New York to make a career out of tormenting Nathan Knorr and the Society. The funny thing is that his ex-wife remarried in the 70's and by the mid 90's she, her husband and Bills son all left the organization! The last I heard, she had died, her husband has dementia and is in a nursing home, her son is happily long disassociated and her daughter is married to a Circuit Overseer. The 'back stories' are always the most interesting!
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  Manufacturing Consent

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been pondering over the wt study last sunday.

  the title, when i first read it, told me that i was going to hear a lot of the same crap i had to put up with during the 2014 international convention.

  while some of it was there, the subliminal message given on the magazine was far from what the title implied to me.

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