I don't know if this was in the Brooklyn Bethel library but it was in the Watchtower Farms library. If they ever want to get rid of it, I'll be glad to take it off their hands.
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Bethel Library moving to Warwick, are older items 'vanishing'
by Lostandfound inin a post re dates etc from fatfreek reference was made to huge library at bethel with items dating back to pastor rs day.
like the year 1975 which has vanished from wt theology, are gb using move to let them put all old and inconvenient items into some sort of cold storage and off library shelves.
already the revelation book has gone from the orgs website, and that was quite recent relatively, we studied it 3 times at congregation book study, yet now, like type and antitype it mysteriously was never there.
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The true cost of being raised as a witness
by stuckinarut2 inhow do you view your upbringing as a witness?.
most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. a foundation and measure of stability came with it.. but, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much!
and we lost a lot of potential.. by this i mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.. if i take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.. but, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then i actually took $1000 from you!.
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I feel for you, Magnum. When I was young(in the 3rd grade) the school department had me tested and found that I was 'highly gifted' and they wanted to advance me 2 grades. My mother said NO because of her Watchtower influence. Strike one. My grandfather wanted to send me to law school (I wanted to be a doctor but that is a separate story), he was going to pay for it and felt that I should prepare at a young age. My mother said NO because you won't need lawyers in the new system. Strike 2. During my last year of jr. high school I received multiple achievement awards (this was in a town with 2 large junior high schools). I was not allowed to retrieve them (we had moved about 125 miles away that late spring) because you won't need the 'accolades of men' in the new system. Strike 3. At my new high school I discovered that I had more than enough credits to graduate in the 10th grade, except for 10th, 11th and 12th grade English. Would the school please give me these classes during summer school and let me graduate out of the education system early? Mother.........help! Strike 4 quit school to pioneer and then become a Bethelite. My Bethel experience was devastating but contained a 'silver lining'! One warm spring day, I was taking an older gentleman, his middle aged wife and his young teenaged daughter on tour. This was in 1976. He asked if he could give me some advice and I said sure. He told me: 'Son, I was in Bethel in the late 1930's and early 1940's. All we heard over and over was that Armageddon was coming any day. We ate bread, butter and sugar sandwiches and worked all the time. Armageddon still hasn't come. If I were you, I wouldn't put too much stock into what those old men in Brooklyn say. If you listen to them lock, stock and barrel you will never have anything.' That was the best advice I ever got. After I left Bethel, I worked hard and became a full partner in business with a worldly (gasp) person and semi-retired at 47 years old. HOME RUN! The true costs to people like you, your wife and many other witnesses are immeasurable. I am sorry that these 'con' men and religious 'charlatans' have been able to have such a negative and far reaching influence on so many that trusted them because of their own dedication and sincerity.
OUTLAW.........my mother saw demons around every corner! I remember her allowing one of her friends to beat her son with a hairbrush to help get the demons out of him. Another time, she dragged me to her old bible studies house to stay overnight and observe her demon attacks so that she could report these 'attacks' to the elders and thereby they could help her in 'exorcising' the evil spirits.
How so many of us escaped our childhoods to become 'mostly' sane and rational is quite a feat and should be congratulated.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the February 19, 2017 WT Study (DECEMBER 2016)(ANXIETY)
by blondie inblondie’s comments you will not hear at the february 19, 2017 wt study (december 2016) (throw anxiety jehovah).
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-december-2016/.
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
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"Some folk just have a sensitive nervous system without there being any causative factor"- snugglebunny
Very true snugglebunny. But you don't think that the Governing Body(tm) is actually going to do any real research on the subject so that they can 'positively know the appearance of their flock'. Platitudes and well worn scripture references is all they really use to 'help' their fellow congregants, while they wait on Jehovah to solve all their problems for them by destroying the 99% of the human race that does not share their dogma.
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Judge Rutherfords brother was very naughty.....
by sparky1 ini found this article online when i was researching information on another post and i am only posting it as an historical item of interest.
it is not intended to slam the judge.. .
i apologize if this has been posted and discussed before..
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Movies I'm Watching
by ILoveTTATT2 ini have, for about 6 months now, been trying to watch every single movie that was "cool" or interesting since 1960.it started out with a desire to watch as an adult all disney movies.
then it morphed into all bond movies (except for the non-canonicals).now it's turned into pretty much any and all movies.
here is my list, scratched out are ones i have seen, green are recent next-in line.turns out there was a lot i had never seen before, about 70% because of the cult restrictions!
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the February 19, 2017 WT Study (DECEMBER 2016)(ANXIETY)
by blondie inblondie’s comments you will not hear at the february 19, 2017 wt study (december 2016) (throw anxiety jehovah).
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-december-2016/.
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
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I sure am glad that we decided to hold our Elders meetings at this bar. Leave a few tracts around so that we can count our time. Lets have one more round before we call on Brother and Sister Depressed and Anxious. Five minutes of prattle and platitudes sprinkled with a few stock scriptures should shut them up and get the Circuit Overseer off our backs! SALUT!
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More fun! Did you know that Judge Rutherford had a daughter? I sure didn't......
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i have too much time on my hands.
my investigations are turning up some neat historical facts..
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3.(e) By Charitable Works for the Relief of Poverty
by Lostandfound inlooking at the australian wt memorandum and articles of this line took my attention.. when did they ever undertake works to relieve poverty, some discarded bethelites facing poverty would laugh at this, more like charitable works for the extension of poverty.
but no poverty facing the ultra heavies and gb members replete with obscene displays of the means of telling the time..
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Jehovah's Witnesses have never been known as a 'real' charitable organization. The Governing Body(tm) and the 'rank and file' witnesses are lying to themselves when they make this claim. The 'world' has always seen through this false claim:
St. Louis Post Dispatch Monday August 11, 1941 pg 16
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More fun! Did you know that Judge Rutherford had a daughter? I sure didn't......
by sparky1 in.
i have too much time on my hands.
my investigations are turning up some neat historical facts..
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Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!
by ILoveTTATT2 inwow.
wow.
wow.someone just sent me a scan of the boonville advertiser newspaper in which it mentions j.f.
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Here is an item of interest. Although he was not elected by popular vote to be a Judge in Missouri, J.F.Rutherford 'officially' and legally served as a judge in Cooper County according to Missouri statute. I realize that this is common knowledge but it is kind of neat to see it in writing.
The St. Louis Star and Times Monday , January 12, 1942 pg. 7
