You are not alone, Akid48. When I was between 5 and 7 years old I had a copy of the Photo Drama of Creation and read it cover to cover. Even at that age I had a WTF moment. None of it made sense to me but being a 'born in' (almost, my mother was baptised when I was a baby) I went along with it until adulthood. Even when I sincerely tried to put my nose to the grindstone and give the religion a try, I could not shake those feelings of doubt and uneasiness.
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has any one had this feeling
by Akid48 ini remember having this feeling when i was younger that something was off when it came to meetings and the people there seemed just off.i had feelings like that when i was like 5 or 6 and i would say i was kinda dumb back then but still i had a feeling like that when i would not have that often.still to this day i dont know what got me to have that feeling i was just wanting to know if any had this feeling to and still cant remember what made your mind give you a red flag..
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Governing Body Members Autographing Bibles
by HereIgo ini have an online ex jw friend who pointed out to me that she stumbled upon a may 15, 1999 watchtower that had pictures of governing body members autographing bibles for people.
i have no bound volumes or cd rom copies anymore so i can verify.
two things came to mind, if this is true:.
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Very interesting scenario: A group of religious 'rulers' giving personalized gifts to a group of secular 'rulers'. Peer to peer gift giving or 'gifts among equals' is the impression that I take away from this encounter.
Interestingly enough, it can be considered poor manners to give a book as a gift under the wrong circumstances:
Top 10 Times Not to Give a Book by Beth Carswell, AbeBooks.com
10. You don't know them well enough. Period.
Rule of thumb: If you don't really know someone, you can't know their taste, so even a book you adored may be inappropriate.
It would seem to me highly unlikely that any of the Governing Body(tm) members were on a first name basis or were personal friends of any of these politicians. Hence, if some of the politicians did not believe in the Bible, giving one as a gift could have done more harm than good.
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Chapter 27 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave
by new boy inso you’re working about forty six hours a week at bethel.
monday night was the bethel watchtower study, tuesdays and fridays nights were your meeting nights at the kingdom hall.
that was your free time.
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"Even hustled at pool in one of the road houses in the mountains." I wish you had told me! We could have 'tag teamed' a few unknowing marks and lived like kings. I grew up on 8 ball. We had a pool table at home since I was about 12 years old.
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Chapter 26 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave
by new boy inwe wanted sex too.
so why did he get married?
so they punishment you for leaving bethel and getting married?
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All this draft talk got me curious. So I got out my Bethel invitation letter to see what it had to say on the subject. "Your questionnaire indicates you have received a 4-D classification from your draft board. If there has been any change in this please advise me before reporting." N. H. Knorr. As an interesting side point, some type of issue arose with the draft board not too long into my Bethel career. I never found out about it until it was taken care of by the legal department. I got a packet in the Bethel mail with all the documents and a letter from W. K. Jackson stating that his department had handled the matter for me and not to give it any concern. Paternalism at it's finest!
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Chapter 27 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave
by new boy inso you’re working about forty six hours a week at bethel.
monday night was the bethel watchtower study, tuesdays and fridays nights were your meeting nights at the kingdom hall.
that was your free time.
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Speaking of the excellent medical treatment at God's House.....................I had terrible digestive issues at Bethel. Diarrhea , constipation, headaches, upset stomach, reactive hypoglycemia and throwing up in the morning (some of which I attribute to the stress of Bethel life). At any rate, I consulted with the good Dr. Roylance. His diagnosis? 'If you don't like the food here at Bethel, you can LEAVE at any time!' Years later, through an endomysial antibody screening, it was discovered that I have severe 'gluten intolerance' but not full blown celiac disease. Now I realize, that I probably would have had to leave Bethel because of this but it would have been nice to know that they cared enough about me personally as a human being and fellow 'brother' to point me in the right direction to try and alleviate my suffering. My Bethel experience was 'shit' on so many levels.(No pun intended)
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The org tightens the noose on J.W.'s thinking.
by The Fall Guy inthe manipulative use of language by the org in the upcoming circuit assembly talks is as good - or better - than any advertising conglomerate could devise.
the mind-shaping wording is clearly used in order to deter critical thinking by the sheep.. face bad reports as jesus did (9 min.
note to the speaker: explain why spiritually mature people do not become ashamed of the good news or dismayed when faced with negative propaganda.
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FACE BAD REPORTS AS JESUS DID could be retitled 'Continue to Eat Your Shit Sandwich, Don't Listen to Legitimate News Sources and Stop Complaining!' At least the Governing Body (tm) would be more honest if they took this approach.
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What or Who is a Jehovah's Witness?
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat or who is a jehovah's witness?.
a jehovah's witness is a person whose faith is centered in men (gb) not god or the bible and who must never voice any opinion on any doctrine contrary to that of the gb or risk discipline and possible disfellowship.. well....its a start.. vander .
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Since Isaiah 43:10 was written to the nation of Israel, then the pre-Christian Jews were Jehovah's Witnesses. To assign any other group of people this title is pure conjecture, unbridled imagination and religious speculation.
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Chapter 23 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave
by new boy inchapter 23.
in 1970 i saw a move that changed my life forever.
which looking back, would have been a total blessing from god.
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"Sounds like a lot of misfits end up in Bethel"..............and if they stay there long enough, they end up in positions of power!
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JWs MUST Accept The Watchtower Teachings EVEN When They Are Wrong!
by minimus inisn't it unbelievable that a jehovah's witness must accept whatever the organization says or they can be disfellowshipped??
unless they tell you that their understanding has changed, you cannot believe anything unless they say it's ok. .
many years ago i questioned them about their ridiculous view that whenever the word "heart" was mentioned, it was a literal blood filled organ.
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Of course, this is the scripture the Governing Body (tm) uses to continue using this false line of reasoning:
"Now I exhort YOU brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that YOU should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among YOU,....." ! Corinthians 1:10 New World Translation revised edition
What I find comical about this is that I have a Mennonite customer that used this scripture on me to prove that the Mennonites have the "TRUTH" . 'That is how I know that I am in the true religion, because we Mennonites speak in agreement' he has told me on more than one occasion.
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Chapter 21 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave
by new boy inchapter 21.
“black thursday” the day the music died.
knorr gathered all the bethel overseers and governing body to the kingdom hall in the 119 building.
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Fisherman, I knew 'the frog's' ex-wife and children. The story goes that he was mad at Knorr for breaking up his engagement to the first 'love of his life'. The 'frogs' name was Bill Norris and he was an ex-Gilead student. He didn't pass Gilead for graduation but his girlfriend did. So Knorr assigned her to a foreign country and failed Bill, essentially splitting them up and destroying their plans for marriage. I realize of course, that Bill's girlfriend could have refused to go to her assignment, but the 'cult' being what it is, there was probably tremendous pressure on her to be a 'good witness' and put Jehovah first. Now you know why Bill sometimes called out, "Nathan Knorr, why are you persecuting me?!!!" He just never got over the disappointment. At any rate, there is an interesting end to the story. Bill decided to marry someone else, have a family and make a go of it as a witness. That didn't last long. He left his wife and children, got disfellowshipped and headed to Brooklyn to torment Knorr. The funny thing is that his ex-wife became apostate later in life. She, her second husband and her son all left the 'truth' after a lifetime of slavery to the religion. The daughter is married to an Elder , they pioneer and he 'serves' as a 'fill in' Circuit Overseer. True story and the names have not been changed to protect the innocent.