Posts by sparky1

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Knorr Family

by vienne in

for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..

I was a Bethelite in the mid 70's. 1974, 1975 and 1976. I was somewhat friendly with Sam Van Sipma who was one of the assistant editors of Consolation and Golden Age. I did not know Knorr personally but ran into him on occasion. I picked up bits and pieces of gossip from friends of his wife, too.

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Knorr Family

by vienne in

for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..

sparky1

Thank you OrphanCrow for posting that interesting historical tidbit. I had heard at Bethel that Nathan was a distant relative to the founder of Knorr food products but never have I heard it out of the Bethel context. I am not a historian nor do I play one on television and so your post had meaning for me as an ex-Bethelite. As an interesting anecdote: One of the old 'old timers' that I knew at Bethel said that Rutherford thought more of Nathan Knorr than he did of his own son Malcolm. On one of their 'service trips' to Europe they went and visited the Swiss Alps. It was reported (but not actually written down for posterity) that on seeing the Alps, Nathan was speechless and cried like a baby at their beauty. Purely third hand gossip, but it possibly shows a more human side to the businesslike Knorr.

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Knorr Family

by vienne in

for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..

sparky1

Philostorgos...........because we 'are brothers under the skin' and have shared similar life experiences.

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Knorr Family

by vienne in

for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..

sparky1

Thank you Desirous Of Change. I will do just that:

My post on Knorr soup and any connection with Nathan Knorr was satire.

P.S.: To my knowledge Nathan Knorr had no connection with the Knorr soup company.

P. P.S.: Good luck Vienne with your project. The Knorr family deserves to be included in your early history writings since Nathan Knorr had such a huge influence on the Jehovah's Witness religion prior to the establishment of the modern day Governing Body in the 1970's.

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Knorr Family

by vienne in

for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..

sparky1

"Folks, won't you try my soups. Their taste is 'heavenly' and they will open to you a whole 'New World' of flavor. Each spoonful will 'resurrect' your taste buds and transport you to a 'paradise' of pleasure. They come in 144,000 varieties and are fit for only a small 'remnant' of kingly palate's. Remember, Knorr soups have been delighting 'overlapping generations' since 1874. Yes my soups are indeed 'food at the proper time'!"

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JW marketing image

by neat blue dog in

picture from a recent watchtower:.

what diversity.

what corporate synergy.

sparky1

Selling religion is no different than selling any other product:

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Knorr Family

by vienne in

for a secondary project, i need basic biography of n. h. knorr's parents and brother and sister.

we have some details, which i have posted on our history blog: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if you can add to this, please do..

sparky1

I spotted your satire right away, new boy. Very funny. Perhaps it takes an old time Bethelite that lived under the 'Knorr regime' like we did in order to understand the joke. At any rate, I have an interesting anecdote about Knorr's sister Isabel: It was my ~~privilege~~ assignment, to take Isabel, some assorted Knorr family members and Knorr's private secretary on tour of Watchtower Farms in the 1970's. When we came to the kitchen, she asked to go inside. I politely declined, informing them that it was against New York health codes to have tours examine the kitchen and food preparation area. Whereupon, Knorr's secretary took me aside and asked, 'Do you know who you are talking to?' I replied that I was well aware of who he was and who Isabel was. However, I said that if I broke the rules for them that it would be unfair for the 'rank and file' witnesses who may also wish to enter the kitchen area during a tour and I didn't feel that I could show favoritism. The secretary barged into the kitchen and asked who the overseer was. The kitchen overseer happened to be a boot licking, ladder climbing Bethel Elder. Needless to say, she got her kitchen tour. Remember folks, all Jehovah's Witnesses are equal, just some are more equal than others.

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Why Do JW Speakers and GB Members Sound So Robotic?

by minimus in

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everyone sounds like they came out of stepford wives.

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is this supposed to be the way witnesses are to speak?

sparky1

Krazy, ain't it. In the 1970's I was counseled that I put too much feeling and animation into my Watchtower reading on Sundays. Drone....drone...drone....drone...drone

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The Jehovah's Witnesses religion founded upon aggressive opportunistic people.

by Finkelstein in

taking a reflective look back onto the founders of the jw religion such as c t russell and j rutherford we can see very opportunistic people who were avowed to themselves more so than being actual true bible interpreters and adherents.. indication of that is just how closed in these men were in their individually devised theology such as pyramidology, end times doctrine, jesus has returned and so on, where there was no effort to substantiate these claims from outside sources by other christian religious organizations .. c t russell was not an trained bible theologian by any imagination he just absorbed any outside information that he thought was engaging or provocatively interesting and went about publishing what others had found or expressed.

j rutherford was one these people who was lured into what russell was preaching and saw what the wts was as a publishing house and grab it including the money that russell had put into it.. the literature circulation and distribution continued on from him, what is realized now is the wts/jws preaching gospel work is not an faithfully accurate preaching according to scripture.

more or less the wts leaders created a working cult around its own public sales representatives in the pretense of preaching the gospel of jesus christ.

sparky1

I agree that these men were opportunists. May I also add that they were god-intoxicated, self deluded, narcissistic, self promoting, grandiose religious fanatics that felt that god almighty chose them as his mouthpiece. A very dangerous combination, indeed.

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Cart Witnessing along with dramas on the big screen?

by Tahoe in

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https://youtu.be/f40ukvgjsqw.

is it the first of april already?.

sparky1

The whole setup 'reeks' of being a giant religious infomercial.