Posts by sparky1

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First time here - My Story (Spousal Abuse)

by Centaurus A in

hi everyone, this is my first time here and only in the last 2 weeks have my eyes been opened.

still trying to take in all this new info.

anyways here is my very condensed story:.

sparky1

Welcome....you are among friends here. You will learn much good information here and I hope that you will continue to share with us so that we can learn from you.

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Hello Everyone, Another JW Has Left!

by SuperGirl in

just want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.

i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.

the religion has become a nut house.

sparky1

Welcome SuperGirl.

I hope that we hear more from you! Enjoy your stay. Many fine and intelligent people post here. Lots to learn, if you keep an open mind.

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WT is lying about the actual publisher numbers

by JustHuman14 in

i left wt, 18 years ago.

never thought that i would have witness such a massive doctrinal and structure changes as well.

i find it hard to recognize that religion.. what i can tell, like all of ex jw's is that wt going down.. their corporate directors know it.

sparky1

Who knows with these jokers? Maybe individual carts are now counted as 'publishers'. They might be considered as some type of 'silent witnesses'!

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i was driving along through a quiet neighborhood on a saturday morning ( yesterday )and , looky-looky, two dubs.i recognized one of them, complete asshole, exbethelite, can i say his name?it's not important.i rolled up, downed the window and "hey!

"they spun around and i continued, "what are you going to do about all those pedophile lawsuits all over the world?

the two witness rule is wrong and so are you!

sparky1

Good manners never go out of style.

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My story

by Leeny in

i came across this website when i was looking for some emotional/mental support lately as i was summoned by elders to explain someone’s report on me saying “i’m promoting homosexuality”.

i’m inactive, not attending meetings or associating with jw outside of my biological family for almost 2 years now.. yes i am gay (you can judge away) and yes it is in a direct contrast to the scriptures, no arguement about it.. i was brought up in a jw family.

my dad is a typical zealot, he literally talks or thinks about the bible 24/7.

sparky1

Welcome to the forum. I look forward to more postings from you. There is a lot to learn here. Many fine people contribute to the pool of knowledge for ex-Jehovah's Witnesses.

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My sister passed away this evening

by smiddy3 in

it was only about two months ago she was diagnosed with lung cancer and she was a non smoker .. she was never a jw and she never held it against me that i was for 33 years.. we had a good relationship even though we lived in different states about 2000 miles apart,.. tears are rolling down my cheeks as i type this .

r.i.p.

sylvia .

sparky1

You have my deepest sympathy.

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Salesmen working on commission (i.e. colporteurs, Pastor Russell's business)

by TerryWalstrom in

"despite the millions of books and magazines sold by charles taze russell and his tower publishing company, and the hundreds of thousands of tracts and other literature distributed free by zwtts between the mid-1870s and 1900, only around 2600 persons bothered attending the watch tower society's local memorial celebrations in 1899. a significant percentage of those 2600 persons were russell's "colporteurs", who earned their livings selling russell's literature for a profit.

charles taze russell was absolutely correct when he proclaimed for decades that zwtts was not a religion -- it was a business.

"_____"zion's watch tower magazine was not owned by zion's watch tower tract society, but rather was a "for-profit" business owned personally by charles taze russell and his tower publishing company, and that the "growing debt" which was "burdening" the work of zwtts was owed to charles taze russell, himself.

sparky1

Well redvip2000, at least some of the information about Rutherford's brother can be corroborated:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5129936010477568/judge-

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All the culty name that were used instead of JWs

by kairos in

jw
friends

the truththe society.

the friends...you remember.

sparky1

"The mountain of the house of Jehovah." - Isaiah 2:1 ( Whatever the f__k that phrase means)

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Do you know who wrote ...

by vienne in

do you know who wrote the 1959 watchtower book jehovah's witnesses in the divine purpose?

anyone?.

sparky1

I believe that John Wischuk was the primary writer and I think that Chris Zell's father had a hand in it, also. When Chris got married, I stayed in his fathers home on Long Island and this subject came up in conversation. He was out of Bethel service by then with a family but sometimes contributed to the writing staff from home, much like Barbara Anderson did when she first left Bethel service. I recall that he had a hand in writing Let God Be True. At any rate, I could be full of it. Do you recall anything about this, Newboy?

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Did you know Banks create money out of thin air?

by TerryWalstrom in

jw
friends

banks create money “out of thin air.”empirical studies have been undertaken to prove this thesis and this is the conclusion:.

in the 5,000 year history of banking, banks have been thought of as “deposit taking institutions which lend money”.. 1. what is the legal reality?

banks don’t take deposits and don’t lend money.the public is under this false impression on purpose because the language of banks is not legal language.. so--what is a “deposit”?a deposit is not actually a deposit.

sparky1

1. Three individuals are involved in this scenario. The creator/seller of the widget. The purchaser of the widget. The bank lending money on the widget. No money was created 'out of thin air' in this transaction. The purchaser desired to own the widget but did not have the funds. He borrowed the money from a bank and gave the money to the person who created/sold the widget. The creator/seller of the widget re-deposited the money in the bank. (Simplified version of a transaction for sake of discussion). The intrinsic value is still in the widget and if the purchaser does not repay the bank, said widget is repossessed and sold. Simple circular transaction. Of course, the individuals 'promise to pay' comes into play but is in no way a 'creation of money out of thin air.'

2. Credit card usage is not creating money out of thin air either. It is a promissory transaction between the borrower and the card authorizing institution. It is purely a 'promissory note' simplified according to the agreement between the institution and the credit card holder. Again, if the cardholder reneges on his payments, the institution is free to take him to court and attach his assets. It may be a poor lending practice but it is hardly creating 'money out of thin air'. In regards to the lending practices pre 2008 for home mortgages, that too was not 'creating money out of thin air'. That was out and out fraud. Stealing money on paper and hoping not to get caught. Banks bundled too many 'junk' mortgages into derivatives and sold them at a higher 'rating'. It was a case of 'let the buyer beware'; not creating money 'out of thin air'.

3. The Wells Fargo scenario has nothing to do with this at all. Wells Fargo created false accounts for people that already had money in their banking system. What they did was move money from a depositors regular account into the new false, unauthorized account. In many cases, the original accounts became overdrawn and triggered fees that went into Wells Fargo's bottom line. No money 'was created out of thin air'. Just stolen from the depositors through fraud and added to the banks balance sheet.

The Mark Twain story is cute. But it has no bearing on reality. If the principle of the story wanted to, he could have just deposited the money and begun to conduct business with his newfound wealth.