Fisherman, I knew 'the frog's' ex-wife and children. The story goes that he was mad at Knorr for breaking up his engagement to the first 'love of his life'. The 'frogs' name was Bill Norris and he was an ex-Gilead student. He didn't pass Gilead for graduation but his girlfriend did. So Knorr assigned her to a foreign country and failed Bill, essentially splitting them up and destroying their plans for marriage. I realize of course, that Bill's girlfriend could have refused to go to her assignment, but the 'cult' being what it is, there was probably tremendous pressure on her to be a 'good witness' and put Jehovah first. Now you know why Bill sometimes called out, "Nathan Knorr, why are you persecuting me?!!!" He just never got over the disappointment. At any rate, there is an interesting end to the story. Bill decided to marry someone else, have a family and make a go of it as a witness. That didn't last long. He left his wife and children, got disfellowshipped and headed to Brooklyn to torment Knorr. The funny thing is that his ex-wife became apostate later in life. She, her second husband and her son all left the 'truth' after a lifetime of slavery to the religion. The daughter is married to an Elder , they pioneer and he 'serves' as a 'fill in' Circuit Overseer. True story and the names have not been changed to protect the innocent.
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Chapter 21 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave
by new boy inchapter 21.
“black thursday” the day the music died.
knorr gathered all the bethel overseers and governing body to the kingdom hall in the 119 building.
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Chapter 21 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave
by new boy inchapter 21.
“black thursday” the day the music died.
knorr gathered all the bethel overseers and governing body to the kingdom hall in the 119 building.
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I believe Man377 is referring to Russell Mock. After over 43 years away from the 'hub' of the Watchtower organization my memory is not what it used to be. Russell had a son named Joel who was also at Watchtower Farms the same time that Mann and I were there. I have heard it 2 different ways about Russell Mock's wife. I have heard that she was Knorr's wife's sister and I have heard that she was Max Larsen's sister. I believe that Mann is correct. Either way, there was lot's of nepotism in 'God's House'. Also, Joel Mock and I shared a 'few' drinks together a time or two.
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Yes, dubstepped, the original ACCUTRON was the tuning fork movement. Those are the ones that I collect. In the last few years, I have been collecting a few ACCUTRON automatics that have been new to the market. The automatics I wear on a daily basis and find them to be an excellent and durable timepiece.
I remember the story about the pocket watch from your podcast. What ever made our parents so unbalanced as to do such things? My maternal grandfather loved me like a son since he had no sons of his own. When he died, I was to inherit the flag from his military funeral and his officers sword. My mother told my grandmother that in no uncertain terms would I accept these items. The American flag I can see but the sword should have been a 'grey' area for me to accept. I loved my grandfather deeply.
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Watch geek here, too! At one point, my collection was worth over $50,000.00. I am an Accutron and Hamilton Electric collector. I specialize in watches from the 50's and 60's.
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Response from the Governing Body: 'Hey look, dubstepped thinks we're Number 1! He's even saluted us twice for emphasis.'
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Chapter 21 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave
by new boy inchapter 21.
“black thursday” the day the music died.
knorr gathered all the bethel overseers and governing body to the kingdom hall in the 119 building.
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Poor Fred Hilmo was banished to Watchtower Farms. He was relegated to cleaning typewriters and small pieces of equipment. I was on speaking terms with him and found him to be a very humble and kind man. He was a man of small stature and had a quiet demeanor about him.It must have taken a lot of courage on his part to stand up against Knorr and the Bethel 'power brokers'.
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Chapter 19 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower Slave
by new boy inchapter 19.
“look ma no hands”.
by the time the summer rolled around they decided to put me on the dryers.
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Absolutely, Hecce. Fighting was grounds for immediate dismissal from Bethel. Because your young friend was on the bottom of the pecking order he was probably considered the guilty one. One punch, and you're out!
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Chapter 18 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower Slave
by new boy inchapter 18. my privilege of service.
it was moved there in the spring of 1969 from the basement of the 124. why is it that people like to put laundries in basements?
the 119 was the newest of all the society’s properties.
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At Bethel it's 'not who you know, but who you nose'!
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Chapter 18 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower Slave
by new boy inchapter 18. my privilege of service.
it was moved there in the spring of 1969 from the basement of the 124. why is it that people like to put laundries in basements?
the 119 was the newest of all the society’s properties.
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The shit soap they used in the Bethel laundries gave me rashes in my armpits, on my neck and in my crotch. I thought my penis and balls were going to rot off from the harshness of the soap! After the first month, I did my own laundry with my own soap and t eventually everything cleared up. To this day, I double rinse my laundry and iron my own clothes. And yes WingCommander, the Bethel 'system' was constructed to 'break your spirit' or any type of 'independent thinking'. It was Papa Knorr's way or the highway...........take your pick!
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in retrospect: RBCs vs LDCs / the hype about a lot of new construction and subsequent abrupt halt to construction
by Magnum inso, now that some time has passed, i’d like some input/thoughts/analysis/etc.
on the jw construction situation in the last few years.. first, why did they discontinue the rbc arrangement and institute the ldc arrangement?
was it for more and/or better control?
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There is a new hall going up in the territory that I live in. The funny thing is that the congregation bought the land in 2008 and are just getting their new hall 9 years later!