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  Great Jefferson Quote

  by mavie in

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  they [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes.

  and they believe rightly; for i have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

  but this is all they have to fear from me: and enough, too, in their opinion.

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  mavie

  They [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: and enough, too, in their opinion.
  
  -Thomas Jefferson to Dr. Benjamin Rush, Sept. 23, 1800
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  Part 2:The Elders Return, Made Decision To Disfellowship Us On Grounds Of..

  by Lady Liberty in

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  dear friends.... "happy tuesday!

  " well the saga continues!

  i thought we had seen the last of the elders last friday night as most have you are familiar with the story.

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  mavie

  Congrats LL and BP. You took control of the situation and let em have it. I salute you.
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  mavie

  Great idea Tuesday. He is hiding behind the Bible.
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  mavie

  O my GOD!! What to do! He played the Bible card! He knows I'm in cahoots with apostates!!!!!!
  
  Mavie:
  
  This will by my last email response to you. I have no desire to respond to your "questions" by email. It is obvious that you are in contact with and getting advice and direction from those who disagree with Jehovah's Witnesses. It is also obvious that you have doubts about the existence of God, faith in the Bible and the need to live by Bible standards. The primary purpose of the meeting is to restore you. As Jude 17-23 states:
  
  "As for YOU, beloved ones, call to mind the sayings that have been previously spoken by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, how they used to say to YOU: "In the last time there will be ridiculers, proceeding according to their own desires for ungodly things." These are the ones that make separations, animalistic [men], not having spirituality. But YOU, beloved ones, by building up yourselves on YOUR most holy faith, and praying with holy spirit, keep yourselves in God’s love, while YOU are waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ with everlasting life in view. Also, continue showing mercy to some that have doubts; save [them] by snatching [them] out of the fire. But continue showing mercy to others, doing so with fear, while YOU hate even the inner garment that has been stained by the flesh."
  
  We look forward to seeing you on December xxxx at 8:00 A.M.
  
  
  
  
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  mavie

  Thanks searcher. Can a mod please remove the link from his post though? We know that the WT monitors this site.
  
  Gracias.
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  My response:
  
  Hi Elder 1,
  
  Thank you for the clarification. I will just use the copy of the Flock book that is available to me with updates through 2006. I was hoping to see a newer copy.
  
  Is there any chance my questions will be answered? I hope that they are as the answers will affect my personal faith immensely.
  
  For example, why do WT publications continually misquote prominent scientists to support their position? Are there no scientists who do support it? The frequency and nature of the misquotes and misrepresentations cannot be chalked up to imperfect humans.
  
  Some of those the WT have misquoted have noticed this and exposed it in subsequent works. Both scientists mentioned in my previous email have done so.
  
  Please, do you have nothing to say about this? I found it embarrassing to continue to support a belief system that seems to collapse at the first hurdle, sincere questions coupled with critical examination. For a religion that prides itself on teaching people the truth and drawing others out with questions, why is a simple question like this ignored?
  
  Your silence speaks volumes.
  
  Mavie
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  His response! What to do now!!! I can't record it and I won't be allowed to see the private 'policy' outlining why!!! My everlasting life is at stake!!!!!
  
  Mavie:
  
  Thank you for getting back to us. We will meet you at 8:00 A.M. on Sunday December xxxx at the Kingdom Hall in (city name). As we told you earlier no tape-recording devices are allowed. That "policy" as you call it is not available for you to review.
  
  Elder 1
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  mavie

  Thanks changeling. At this point it's all about taking control of the meeting. No more rolling over and playing good dub.
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  mavie

  Thanks sspo,
  
  If they try to divert the meeting away from my questioning I will continually refocus it. I'm tired of my sincere questions being ignored.
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  mavie

  Thanks besty, I might go get a copy of The God Delusion and bring it with me to the meeting to show them the quote. I'm sure the book cover alone will raise a few eyebrows in the Kingdom Hall.
  
  llbh, I know they won't change their minds. This is about taking control of the meeting.