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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

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  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  Having an open mind and a strong opinion based on scientific evidence are not mutually exclusive.
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  Decide for yourselves - IPCC and US Senate Climate Reports

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  http://www.ipcc.ch/ (un ipcc report, nov 17, 2997) .

  http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?fuseaction=minority.senatereport (us senate report) .

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  http://www.ipcc.ch/ (UN IPCC Report, Nov 17, 2997)
  
  http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport (US Senate Report)
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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

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  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  CB, please stop the personal attacks. Aside from one post that is all I have seen from you. Yes I know who Kurzweil is. For some reason you need to continue to assume I don't.
  
  I trust that those reading this thread or trying to decide what to believe can do by comparing the latest UN IPCC report with the US Senate EPW report of Dec 21st.
  
  http://www.ipcc.ch/ (UN IPCC Report, Nov 17, 2997)
  
  http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport (US Senate Report)
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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

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  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  Yes BTS, physics and geology majors are not climatologists. There might be some overlap but that is irrelevant. One needs to consult to specialists in a field.
  
  Yes, I know who 'legendary' Kurzweil is. He is a futurist. Labeling him as legendary in a Senate report smacks of desperation.
  
  I read the report because I have an open mind, not to discredit it.
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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

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  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  Some of the 'science' refuting climate change. I stopped reading the EPW Senate Minority site after this graph.
  
  http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Images.View&File_id=75d62e6f-802a-23ad-47ac-e995a95082c7&ImageGallery_id=04bf1b76-802a-23ad-438b-dec552db7c92
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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

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  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  Mommy!!! He moving across to MY side of the backseat!!! Stop him now!!!
  
  Look at some of the scientists in the latest Senate minority report...
  
  Don Aitkin, PhD, Professor, social scientist, retired Vice-Chancellor and President, University of Canberra, Australia
  
  Bjarne Andresen, PhD, physicist, Professor, The Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
  
  Lance Endersbee, Emeritus Professor, former Dean of Engineering and Pro-Vice Chancellor of Monasy University, Australia
  
  Christopher Essex, PhD, Professor of Applied Mathematics and Associate Director of the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario, Canada
  
  Howard Hayden, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Physics, University of Connecticut, U.S.
  
  Alex Robson, PhD, Economics, Australian National University
  
  Dr. Ross McKitrick, associate professor, Dept. of Economics, University of Guelph, Ont.
  
  Dr. David E. Wojick, P.Eng., energy consultant, Star Tannery, Va., and Sioux Lookout, Ont.
  
  Legendary inventor Ray Kurzweil, described as "an inventor whose work in artificial intelligence has dazzled technological sophisticates for four decades"
  
  LOL! Is this for real? "Legendary" in a Senate report?
  
  I prefer to get my climate science from climatologists.
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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

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  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  This thread has jumped the shark.
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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

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  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  wow. i'm done.
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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

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  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  Was the report signed by any dems?
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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

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  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  I didn't know this was a popularity contest.