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  News Flash !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by TooBad TooSad in

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  my wife excitedly told me that she talked to the wife of an elder that just came back from.

  the special training for elders in upper state new york and that the elders are being told .

  to go back to their congregations and to get them ready for the great tribulation.. i said to her that is great news !!!!

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  Whoops !!!

  Elder-Schmelder, just wanted to add that your post was TOO FUNNY !

  "Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away." ---------"Why Awake is Published" (prior to November 8th, 1995.)

  "Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure world that is about to replace the present wicked, lawless system of things." ---------------(after November 8th, 1995.)
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  News Flash !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my wife excitedly told me that she talked to the wife of an elder that just came back from.

  the special training for elders in upper state new york and that the elders are being told .

  to go back to their congregations and to get them ready for the great tribulation.. i said to her that is great news !!!!

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  Hi CunningMan,

  Yes, I totally agree it could be a "misunderstanding," all I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprized in the least if she was "dead-on" in repeating what was relayed to her. According to the WTS, it's usually a "misunderstanding" or "over-zealousness" on the part of the rank and file. The WTS leads its "witnesses" to believe something, and then ten years later, says it never actually stated such a thing. The WTS's "circle-talk."

  That's why the WTS NEVER comes out and actually states anything anymore, it just "circle-talks" so it can blow off the responsibility of actually being a false prophet. Think about it, if the WTS just stated the TRUTH and stated that, since the BIBLE says that the end will come like a thief in the night, not even THEY know when the Great Tribulation will begin, well the WTS's membership would most likely plummet. That's what this organization has based its beliefs on since the beginning, that the END is right around the corner. Rutherford, who stated that a false prophet is one who predicts an occurence that fails to come to pass, wrote "Hence these faithful men may be expected on earth within the next few years." (The Harp of God - PROOF CONCLUSIVE THAT MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE, International Bible Students Association, 1924.)

  And prior to Rutherford, the WTS has the great prophet, Russell, who based the end of the world on the dimensions of the Great Pyramid of Gizeh. Then, the WTS has its members shuffling mags to get into that New System because 1975 was most likely "it." (another "misunderstanding). All I'm pointing out is that with the WTS's track record, would anyone be surprized ? Either you're a false prophet or your not.
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  News Flash !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my wife excitedly told me that she talked to the wife of an elder that just came back from.

  the special training for elders in upper state new york and that the elders are being told .

  to go back to their congregations and to get them ready for the great tribulation.. i said to her that is great news !!!!

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  deddaisy

  "Common guys, let's not jump to conclusions.

  After all, this thread was made because someone's wife's friend's husband supposedly heard some news from a meeting in New York.

  Doesn't this suggest to anybody that this may be only a rumor based on a misunderstanding?"

  It's a possibility but doubtful, isn't the End always right around the corner? Why else would JW's BE JWs? It certainly isn't because of their Christ-like love for their earthly brothers that they go door to door. Not all, but the majoriity of JWs that I know, have a twinkle in their eyes when talking about Armageddon and all those "WORDLY" people finally being DESTROYED by the loving Jehovah, THEIR GOD. (HE's NOBODY ELSE's GOD BECAUSE JWs HAVE FULL COPYRIGHT) Even the illustrations in the lovely old PARADISE book that I studied as a kid showed Imperfect Adults and CHILDREN, BICYCLES and PETS being devoured by the opening cracks in the earth. It did NOT show CANCER and DEATH and INJUSTICE being devoured, only humans and animals.........................SERVE ME OR DIE
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  News Flash !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my wife excitedly told me that she talked to the wife of an elder that just came back from.

  the special training for elders in upper state new york and that the elders are being told .

  to go back to their congregations and to get them ready for the great tribulation.. i said to her that is great news !!!!

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  For many Witnesses, Armageddon is the only thing they have to look forward to.

  there they still sit, or rather drag, bookbags that are getting heavier and heavier each year, with aching backs, wrinkles and bags, no 401-Ks, no education, no health insurance, way past the point of "never growing old," It's a shame the poor WTS doesn't have the means to provide retirement to its life-long ministers.......

  Like Jack Nicholson said, "TRUTH?" YOU COULDN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!"
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  BC parents back in court

  by Stealth453 in

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  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/sextuplets_court

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  one more afterthought for the Society.......in addition to financing some brothers to go to law school, why don't you send a few pioneers to med school ? that way JWs could go to JW surgeons and JW doctors and you wouldn't have to worry about wordly doctors trying to infringe on the rules you've laid down for your workforce? Besides, you could spare some pioneers, you've had them busy prophesying that Armageddon is upon us since the 19th century so surely the word has been spread by now. It's easy to see why God's people would need a legal department, but isn't educating God's chosen how to save life with new techniques almost as important as saving face or money?
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  BC parents back in court

  by Stealth453 in

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  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/sextuplets_court

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  I know this thread is long over, but this blood issue combined with newborns and kids really, really gets to me . JWs, if YOU want to sacrifice your LIFE for a mere SYMBOL of life, DO IT ! But the life that breathes within a newborn is NOT yours to sacrifice !

  What I cannot understand is how the couple educated on in vitro fertilization (IVF) made the decision to follow through with IVF being aware that multifetal pregnancy reduction may be required along with blood transfusions??

  something makes me think that they really don't care if there' was a "reduction," as long as their hands were clean..............

  As Jehovah's Witnesses," said the father, "we believe that to have aborted any of our sextuplets would be a profound disregard for life and violation of God's law"

  YEA RIGHT, as JWs we are AGAINST even any contraceptative devices that may POSSIBLY ABORT an EGG, so we'll just let the babies die AFTER they're born, that's not a profound disregard for life !
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  WOW! JW SLAMMED BIGGIE at Newspaper

  by DannyHaszard in

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  wow this is more severe than even i would post what goes around comes around...you can't assault millions of victims without repercussions http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ie=utf-8&q=jehovah+witness on the news wire the people speak: religious group changes bible text.

  muskogee daily phoenix, ok - 14 minutes ago.

  jehovahs witnesses go to meetings twice a week to train and learn how to manipulate people into questioning their belief and doubting their faith.

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  " i do agree with you that most JWs wouldnt read the article further than one or two sentences. its way too heavy and not properly researched. and its to critical."

  it doesn't matter that JWs wouldn't read the article, the article is short enough and nutty enough that it just may make a "house-holder" think twice before he or she gets to the zombie-like state of a full-fledged JW ! And "not properly researched," most JWs I've encountered have no idea if what they preach has been "properly researched." JWs just repeat what gets fed into their heads at three meetings a week and then reinforced with studying WTS publications at home, preparing for meetings, listening to WTS tapes in the car, on and on, and on........... ...............

  house-holder?! are witnesses still propped up in theocratic ministry school in order to learn proper techniques to recruit? same tactics used by "outside sales" trainers in corporations...................
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  WOW! JW SLAMMED BIGGIE at Newspaper

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. watchtower
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  wow this is more severe than even i would post what goes around comes around...you can't assault millions of victims without repercussions http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ie=utf-8&q=jehovah+witness on the news wire the people speak: religious group changes bible text.

  muskogee daily phoenix, ok - 14 minutes ago.

  jehovahs witnesses go to meetings twice a week to train and learn how to manipulate people into questioning their belief and doubting their faith.

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  "I think the article is utter shit that would be dismissed by anyone who knows anything about JWs."

  I agree, but you gotta admit, those who read that article and who don't know anything about JWs won't hear a word that comes out of the mouth of the next witness at their doors, they'll be busy checking the witnesses heads for little horns. Who wants to chance having Rosemary's baby come into their home to study the Bible ! I LOVE it ! What would be even greater is if the Catholic Church started preaching that JWs were demons !
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  Russell's Gravesite Pictures - (just got back from Pittsburgh)

  by thecarpenter in

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  well folks, got back from my trip to see russell's grave site.

  it was quite a interesting experience and sobering to see the pyramid right by his tombstone.

  i'm kind of tired and will be hitting the sack soon but i wanted to post a few pictures.

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  stev, I wasn't directing my comment at you really, it was more for any witnesses who feel that showing a photo of the pyramid at Russell's grave is in poor taste, If discussion of a man's beliefs is mocking the bereaved then we should also not show photos of Hitler or his victims of war. Past events and persons who still have an impact on so many should not be conveniently "swept under the rug" and not discussed. As the Watchtower Society itself so quickly points out, one should examine one's religion. Many who are baptized witnesses don't even know, yet alone examine the reasoning for, a pyramid being erected at the founder of the Watchtower Society's gravesite. Russell was a follower, like many in the late 19th century, who were caught up in pyramidology. Smith of the Mormons even attempted to, or had, items from an Egyptian tomb shipped to the states. The Watchtower Society, if noone else, should not regard it as being in poor taste to examine the history of a religion.

  Witnesses at one's door certainly aren't going to be the ones who point out the history of the Watchtower Society prior to dunking some unknowing soul in a bottomless pool.........Russell was just a person, not a prophet. He was a man who believed the dimensions of the Great Pyramid referenced the timetable of the End, not a man who's beliefs warranted such an impact on the lives of so many.

  "The Great Pyramid, however, proves to be a storehouse of important truth-scientific, historic and prophetic-and it testimony is found to be in perfect accord with the Bible, expressing the prominent features of its truths in beautiful and fitting symbols. It is by no means an addition to the written revelation: that revelation is complete and perfect and needs no addition. But it is a strong corroborative witness to God's plan; and few students can carefully examine it, marking the harmony of its testimony with that of the written Word, without feeling impressed that its construction was planned and directed by the same divine wisdom, and that it is the pillar of witness referred to by the prophet [Isaiah at Isaiah 19:19,20. "

  Charles Russell------Thy Kingdom Come------pp 314
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  Russell's Gravesite Pictures - (just got back from Pittsburgh)

  by thecarpenter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well folks, got back from my trip to see russell's grave site.

  it was quite a interesting experience and sobering to see the pyramid right by his tombstone.

  i'm kind of tired and will be hitting the sack soon but i wanted to post a few pictures.

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  "Mocking the dead and the bereaved is in poor taste as an argument of ridicule when despite our religious differences we will all die and lose people in death. "---Stev

  Stev, I don't think it's anyone's intention to mock the dead and bereaved. I can only answer for myself of course, but I know the only reason I bother to spend even one more moment of my life with any of the WTS's publications or history is in order to possibly save life, not mock the dead. If one person might see, and then question Russell having a pyramid near his gravesite, it may convince him or her to question things prior to becoming baptized. It's in even poorer that many lives were, and will be, wasted on dedication to a society that predicted the end of the world for everyone except themselves.