Are you, by the title of the thread, saying that people here lack faith...in general?
Lacking faith in God and the bible!
the apostle paul told the christians in the ancient city of philippi: "this is what i continue praying, that your love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment.
philippians 1:9
similarly, accurate knowledge is needed for you to be motivated to believe in god.
Are you, by the title of the thread, saying that people here lack faith...in general?
Lacking faith in God and the bible!
jw,.
i realize it is impossible to expect that no one will post to this thread, and most threads don't survive more than a page or two before becoming sidetracked, but perhaps you and i can discuss whatever is on your mind in an "intelligent" manner in this thread.
maybe we could begin by requesting that this area be fairly undisturbed and at least that any additional posts to this thread outside of our discussion be of a statement nature and not distracting from the point by asking side-questions or hurling ad hominem.. first though, i would like some sense of what you consider to be an intelligent way to discuss issues.. can we agree to try and avoid logical fallacies and argue only points we each feel competent to address independently?
1925 was a sad year for many brothers. Some of them were stumbled; their hopes were dashed. They had hoped to see some of the 'ancient worthies' [men of old like Abraham] resurrected. Instead of its being considered a 'probability,' they read into it that it was a 'certainty,' and some prepared for their own loved ones with expectancy of their resurrection..."
1975 Yearbook pg.146
What scriptures comfirm that?
3. then there were the rest of the dead - a third group.
(the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.
even here, it appears there are three groups and so just how does the society make 3 into 2?
Now this would appear to be fairly straightforward in its general meaning.
JW, I would just like to say one thing: The Bible never says that you have to be guided by the holy Spirit to distinguish between a false prophet and a true prophet.
You must study the Bible and meditate on it, at the same time asking for God's spirit to direct you. ( Proverbs 15:28 ; Luke 11:9-13 ) "If any one of you is lacking in wisdom," the Bible says, "let him keep on asking God, for he gives generously to all and without reproaching; and it will be given him." ( James 1:5 )
i rented a house in the late !970's and the contents in the home were given to me.. it happened to be books: ( making my life happy, revelation, children bible stories, listening to the great teacher ) i was enjoying the reading.. -----------------------------------.
a few years later began to notice awake magazines in doctor offices, and other public places and read them and enjoyed them.. ------------------------------------.
late 1980's my 7th son was 2 yrs.
family first" ,,,,, Sorry no. IF you are a "JEHOVAH'S WITNESS" then witnessing for Jehovah comes before family. 8 Certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.
jw,.
i realize it is impossible to expect that no one will post to this thread, and most threads don't survive more than a page or two before becoming sidetracked, but perhaps you and i can discuss whatever is on your mind in an "intelligent" manner in this thread.
maybe we could begin by requesting that this area be fairly undisturbed and at least that any additional posts to this thread outside of our discussion be of a statement nature and not distracting from the point by asking side-questions or hurling ad hominem.. first though, i would like some sense of what you consider to be an intelligent way to discuss issues.. can we agree to try and avoid logical fallacies and argue only points we each feel competent to address independently?
I believe some humans will never die at all and other humans will be witness to that in our time.
"Milions now living will never die"
Thats what the Watchtower was preaching in prior to their false prophecy about 1925
Bull crap, that has nothing to do with the watchtower.
25 Jesus said to her: “I am the resurrection and the life. He that exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life; 26 and everyone that is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. John 11:25
the apostle paul told the christians in the ancient city of philippi: "this is what i continue praying, that your love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment.
philippians 1:9
similarly, accurate knowledge is needed for you to be motivated to believe in god.
By what right do you decide that people on here lack faith?
Learn the difference between observation and judgement.
the apostle paul told the christians in the ancient city of philippi: "this is what i continue praying, that your love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment.
philippians 1:9
similarly, accurate knowledge is needed for you to be motivated to believe in god.
Faith in what by the way. Faith in God or Faith in the Watchtower Society?
GOD
jw,.
i realize it is impossible to expect that no one will post to this thread, and most threads don't survive more than a page or two before becoming sidetracked, but perhaps you and i can discuss whatever is on your mind in an "intelligent" manner in this thread.
maybe we could begin by requesting that this area be fairly undisturbed and at least that any additional posts to this thread outside of our discussion be of a statement nature and not distracting from the point by asking side-questions or hurling ad hominem.. first though, i would like some sense of what you consider to be an intelligent way to discuss issues.. can we agree to try and avoid logical fallacies and argue only points we each feel competent to address independently?
Since you do not believe that last, what do you believe about the classes of sheep that differs from the Governing Body dogma, and on what Scriptures do you base your viewpoint?
I believe some humans will never die at all and other humans will be witness to that in our time.
John 3: 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The world [of wicked mankind] is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever."—1 John 2:17.
I believe some humans will go to heaven but will be transformed into angelic form. And I heard a sound out of heaven as the sound of many waters and as the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was as of singers who accompany themselves on the harp playing on their harps. 3 And they are singing as if a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one was able to master that song but the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth. I believe some humans will enter paradise here on earth. Evildoers themselves will be cut off, but those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth."—Psalm 37:9. John 3:16) Those asleep in the grave but who are in God's memory will be resurrected, not to heaven, but to life on a cleansed earth.
jw,.
i realize it is impossible to expect that no one will post to this thread, and most threads don't survive more than a page or two before becoming sidetracked, but perhaps you and i can discuss whatever is on your mind in an "intelligent" manner in this thread.
maybe we could begin by requesting that this area be fairly undisturbed and at least that any additional posts to this thread outside of our discussion be of a statement nature and not distracting from the point by asking side-questions or hurling ad hominem.. first though, i would like some sense of what you consider to be an intelligent way to discuss issues.. can we agree to try and avoid logical fallacies and argue only points we each feel competent to address independently?
I am unable to locate a particular scripture in reference to my future answer. Patience is a virtue.
Since you do not believe that last, what do you believe about the classes of sheep that differs from the Governing Body dogma, and on what Scriptures do you base your viewpoint?