Oh no..you're in trouble! Lets hope her search might end up useful. You will have to explain why it is good to be here. I hope she doesnt overreact and becomes overly suspicious. Maybe she'll find some material which is eye-opening...
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my wife burst into the computer room and found me {gasp} talking with apostates on this site!
now she doesn't go witnessing anymore and only very rarely goes to a meeting...but talking to apostates is not on!
i quickly closed down but had to log-off later so she doesn't find out that iam "witness 007.
since i've been out for so long i would like to ask if there has been any change regarding the association with disfellowshiped.
can active jws go to the wedding of their df'd sons or daughters?
any policy change?.
Sorry I answer so late...Thanks again to all! It is surly helpful to hear what others have experienced at weddings and how the elders handle matters. The infomation the bride was given, namely that it is a df'ing offence turns out to be false...thats good news!
I would have thought the more important question would be, "Why on earth would a disfellowshipped child want their JW parents at their wedding?" Unless you're into keeping company with sodden wet blankets, surely that magical day should be kept JW-free.
Yes Steve, that's a good question and it would definitely be wonderful to have a JW-free wedding and world. But as I explained earlier, the situation is complicated, as it is for most who have lived their lives as jws. The bride and bridegroom both love their parents. In fact, the bride's mother is not df, but has faded about seven years ago. The mother wants her husband (the jw former elder) to be at the wedding together with the family. (Personally I wouldn't want that father to be there.) It is not a JW-wedding, but a EXJW-wedding, since the couple both come out of large witness families with uncles, ants, parents, nephews and nieces either JW or EXJW.
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since i've been out for so long i would like to ask if there has been any change regarding the association with disfellowshiped.
can active jws go to the wedding of their df'd sons or daughters?
any policy change?.
Thank you all, I now have more info to pass onto a DA person I know who is getting married.
The situation is quite complicated: The bride is DA and her fiance is the son of a df'd "sister". The bridegrooms parents are divorce and remarried. His father (never a JW) is now married to a df'd sister, who in studying again in order become reinstated. I think his father is studying too(?). Also the bride's family is mostly inactive, with some still believing and others not. Her father is an extreme jw former elder, who stepped down due to health reasons.
So as you can see, there will be Quite a few df'd and inactive persons attending the wedding. So there are understandably many concerns about the aftermath of attending this wedding.
Thanks for the updates OTWO and Cog. OP THX for the quote. Just a few years ago my friends father showed her a km and told her, he can have no further association with her, but in the meantime he is not being strict about this. She will be happy to hear that her wedding does not necessarily constitute a df'ing offence as she has been told.
Actually it feels strange to have to write about this, I mean, two people are only getting married and they are made to feel as if they are doing something bad..
since i've been out for so long i would like to ask if there has been any change regarding the association with disfellowshiped.
can active jws go to the wedding of their df'd sons or daughters?
any policy change?.
since i've been out for so long i would like to ask if there has been any change regarding the association with disfellowshiped.
can active jws go to the wedding of their df'd sons or daughters?
any policy change?.
Thank you Velta!
The last I remember is that once the df'd child leaves home there should be no association. Association with df'd persons can lead to being df'd. So, is going and participating in the wedding of a df'd child a df'ing offence?
Was there a km or new wt to enforce the 80's policies?
since i've been out for so long i would like to ask if there has been any change regarding the association with disfellowshiped.
can active jws go to the wedding of their df'd sons or daughters?
any policy change?.
with all the talk about the increased violence in schools and among society, it still surprises me that the accessibility to guns argument often tends to trump the cultural argument.. maybe i'm out of touch but showing saw iii uncut on hbo at 10pm and releasing the most violent video games in history and the marketing of violent and perverse music, these are the things to me that desensitises young people first and then may trigger some hurt and unstable kids long before they go and buy a gun.. okay, ready to be blasted (pardon the pun)!.
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i just remembered when i was a kid and we would go to the assembly, it was fun because we got to buy new clothes and put extra effort into looking good.
when we would get there you could save your seats and even save some for your friends, then go off looking for them.. i used to love our circuit assembly because of the food.
it was at the assembly hall and there was a big kitchen, some of my favourite brothers worked in that kitchen, sometimes i was allowed to go in and help.
i just came across this comment by someone from a group i belong to .
we just had the visit of our co...his wife made this comment to me:.
"'as i was reading the very powerful articles in the last public issue of the wt with study articles...i couldn't help but imagine that the brothers are waving a goodbye to people!'...
the following took place several years ago in a congregation in the united states.
we had this circuit overseer who was a real piece of work.
40-ish mts grad, i believe.
We had this Circuit Overseer who was a real piece of work. 40-ish MTS grad, I believe. Well, Mrs. Ghost and I were attending a congregation that had some...well...interesting personalities. In particular, two families had serious issues with each other. To further complicate matters, both families were very active in the congregation (pioneers, elders, servants, you get the picture). Fortunately, we were able to stay out of the fray, but Mrs. Ghost and I knew everything that was going on between these families. People like to talk, you know? Honestly, everyone involved in that situation just needed to grow up.
Anyway, when the C.O. comes, he gets an ear full from both families.
Wow! This sounds so much like my family and another elder family. Many Co's had to deal with that problem and the whole congregation was involved. One CO suggested to split the cong in two, for fear jah might take away his spirit. Long story, anyway...
...for me too it was the way problems got dealt with which was one of many eye-openers.
So I can thank COs, elders and other hypocrites for helping me on the way out.