It is a good email, but i will point out that both Justice McClellan and Angus Stewart fully understand how much they lied. These are both very clever and wise men, they could see through the usual rubbish very easily.
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Email to Royal Commission on Lies
by LevelThePlayingField ini wrote this email today to the royal commission:.
dear royal commission:.
i am writing you to tell you that many of the jehovah's witnesses who have testified have lied to the commission under oath, and they have done so with ease because of what they have been taught through their publications.
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Is it worth making a JW Talk profile?
by Lemonp ini have looked at the jw talk forums every now and again.
is it any use making a profile to get in?
mainly just to laugh at the pathetic discussion that they carry on with.
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Lemonp
I have looked at the JW talk forums every now and again. Is it any use making a profile to get in?
Mainly just to laugh at the pathetic discussion that they carry on with.
Is it worth it?
Does anyone have a profile already?
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need input: My wife is at it again...this time about the faithful and discreet slave
by goingthruthemotions inso you all know that i go with my wife to the meeting to protect the kids from the drival and pacify her.
tonight we are sitting there and she points to mathew and says something about the faithful and discreet slave and she said eplain this.
so breaking away from what i was reading in the meeting..." in search of christian freedom by franz"...i said.
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Lemonp
Hey GTTM
Sometimes you want to grab them and say "just THINK for once!!"
Does your wife believe that the FDS is appointed by God/Jesus? Because by their own teachings they are not, and this is backed up by Geoffrey Jackson's testimony from the RC. The March WT study about the talents changed this, so it may be something you can reason on with her?
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what is the latest on the Royal Commission case as of Aug 30?
by lettersfromthevoid inthe last video i watched was day 8 part 2 with geofrey jackson.
has there been anything else in terms of open session videos?
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Lemonp
If you rewatch the final 5min or so of day 8 part 2 you will see McClellan talking to Angus. Angus asks for an extension on submitting his findings (his submission) as it is meant to be 4 weeks from the 2nd, but with GJ testifying a week later he asked for an extension. McClellan says no, so expect Angus' report to be out by the 8th at the latest.
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Index of BOE letters from the RC
by Lemonp inin the exhibit list we can find a current list of boe letter references.
you can see what the current letters relating to accounts, weddings, child abuse, and many many more topics.
direct download link .
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Lemonp
In the exhibit list we can find a current list of BOE letter references.
You can see what the current letters relating to Accounts, Weddings, Child Abuse, and many many more topics.
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What were you favorite book in the organization? I know what you're thinking...LOL!
by BashfulAshG inwhat were *your favorite *books in the organization?.
out of all of those books, i liked "mankind's search for god.
" however, it appears to me that this book is incredibly obscure and no one recalls studying it during the old book study format.
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Clarifying This Weeks Watchtower...CTR Reference
by freemindfade inwhat the sunday watchtard said.... in 1876, an article written by charles taze russell was published in the magazine bible examiner.
that article, gentile times: when do they end?, pointed to 1914 as a significant year.
the article linked the seven times of daniels prophecy with the appointed times of the nations spoken of by jesus.. what gentile times: when do they end?
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Lemonp
I answered up for this question: "Brother Russel taught that Christ's presence began in 1874 and that Armageddon would come in 1914"
The Conductor was a bit flustered.
This paragraph was very deceiving:
"When the time approached for God’s Kingdom in the hands of Jesus to start ruling from heaven, Jehovah helped his people to understand the timing of events. In 1876, an article written by Charles Taze Russell was published in the magazine Bible Examiner.That article, “Gentile Times: When Do They End?,” pointed to 1914 as a significant year. The article linked the “seven times” of Daniel’s prophecy with “the appointed times of the nations” spoken of by Jesus."
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New songs at meetings
by Saltheart Foamfollower intoday at the wt study one of the new songs was used.
how has this been going in other congs - at my hall about two thirds had it on either tablets or phones with lyrics on or printed out, rest just stood looking blank.
singing very poor.
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what happens when one informs elders that one's baptism was invalid?
by quincemyles inis it possible to move from baptized publisher to unbaptized status perpetually?
what do elders do when you inform them that your baptism was invalid?
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From the Shepherd the flock book: (Bolding and formatting theirs)
Was the Wrongdoer’s Baptism Valid?
46. When dealing with wrongdoers, the elders should not raise questions about the validity of the individual’s baptism. If the individual raises the issue, the elders may refer him to the February 15, 2010, Watchtower, page 22. Further information on rebaptism can be found in the February 15, 1964, Watchtower, pages 123-126, and the March 1, 1960, Watchtower, pages 159-160. Rebaptism is a personal matter.
47. At times a wrongdoer will claim that his baptism is not valid and that he feels he is not accountable to a judicial committee because he secretly engaged in wrongdoing shortly before he was baptized. If the elders had been aware of his serious wrongdoing committed just before baptism, likely they would not have approved him for baptism. However, this does not necessarily mean that he did not make a valid dedication. Some individuals make a dedication long before the baptism; others have made a dedication shortly before. The elders are not in a position to read the heart and know for a certainty how Jehovah viewed the person at the time he was baptized. If the elders learn that a baptized individual secretly engaged in serious wrongdoing while he was an unbaptized publisher but the wrongdoing ceased before baptism, they should give counsel and encouragement. A judicial committee should not be formed for prebaptism wrongdoing. (1 Cor. 6:9-11) However, if the individual resumed serious wrongdoing after baptism, the elders would generally deal with him on the basis of what he has professed to be, a dedicated and baptized Christian, and would meet with him judicially. Thereafter, if he feels he should be rebaptized, this would be a personal decision. However, a person should not get rebaptized simply because he gains improved understanding or appreciation of the truth or some Scriptural doctrine. —Prov. 4:18.
48. There are rare occasions when it is obvious that the baptism was invalid because serious wrongdoing did not cease before baptism, even for a brief period of time. For example, it may be that at the time of baptism, the individual was living immorally with a member of the opposite or the same sex, was a member of a non-neutral organization, or something similar. If there are questions, the branch office should be consulted.
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Phone call straight after the Royal Commission
by umbertoecho instraight after the commission ended today within minutes, the phone rang.
it was one of the people who are working on it.
firstly she established if i was alright and did i want to talk.. i said i was too tired and unhappy that geoffrey jackson managed to do some preaching....she said they were aware of that.
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Lemonp
Thanks for sharing that, friend.
I am glad that they can see through it all! I cant wait for the final report of the RC, especially now as Jackson gave his full approval of it!