That was lovely, lil. I guess, no matter what we believe, we will all find out in the end, which ever way that comes.
Warlock
it seems from my perspective only, as i am only speaking for myself, that there are many people who like to debate on christianity and christian beliefs no matter what the initial topic was about originally.
it seems that many who do this are basing their beliefs about christianity on what they learned from either one extremely legalistic group known as jehovahs witnesses or from one of the just as extreme fundamentalist sects with similar attitudes.
i would like to point out though that main stream christianity considers these groups to be cults of christianity.
That was lovely, lil. I guess, no matter what we believe, we will all find out in the end, which ever way that comes.
Warlock
the watchtower magazine has used the word "soon" on many an occasion to point out to its readership how near armageddon really is.. a word that can mean anything, in effect, actually means nothing.
consequently, let's examine what "soon" actually means by definition and use.. there can only be three stages of time:.
wouldn't you agree with that?
Come on, Blues, it's only been 2 days! By the way, how do you do the cut & paste in the yellow box thing?
Warlock
"he will kill the wicked" ... "jesus is coming to bring down the unrighteous" ... "you shall know his wrath" .... "you will burn in hell!".
my father had a renter in one of his houses, who was a whacked out christian.
when she moved out, she wrote these kinds of things all over the walls and we had to repaint the entire house to get it cleaned up.
Yeah, there is a former employee who calls me at work who says he is a born again Christian, and he thinks he's been implanted with a micro chip so the government can follow him around, and steal his money. The problem with him, is, that sometimes, he makes more sense than sane people, and THAT, is scary. (He must have heard me, because he just called, no kidding)
Warlock
when i went to europe, i saw nudity in commercials, and other sexual topics used to advertise products.
as an american, i was shocked to see such things in places that seemed out of place of such tools of such an extreme nature.
i tend to feel, even to this day, that public nudity in advertising is something that is over the top.
Instead of Americans being prudes, maybe Europeans are sexually obsessed.
Warlock
its not until you are out of the religion that you notice how unhappy a lot of witnesses are.
through family i still have contact with quite a few and hear of stories of whats going on.
i am like a different person now i am out.
Actually, we are supposed to be happy while being persecuted, so if you are unhappy, you are either not getting persecuted or you are not getting enough persecution.
Warlock
i couldn't have done better myself-danny haszard
the commitment of jehovahs witnesses
witness: you mean to tell me that this is how they have people like you telling people in the cayman islands that jesus was never a christian?.
I thought the man was being rather kind, considering the points he brought up in the article.
Warlock
i'm not kidding.
it has been less than two weeks since i discussed with an elder some of the problems i had about the wts.
one discussion.
Well, Drew, so much for "confidentially".
Warlock
to all out there that read this forum, " i'm not a jehovas witness!".
but i am in love with someone.
i understand because i have read much information on the internet regarding these kinds of relationships.
I'm not telling you what to do, but oil and water don't mix.
Warlock
it just breaks my heart when i read some of the posts on this websites and hear all of the horror stories about people and families suffering because of what the church or religion did to them.
not just jw's or mormons, but catholics, born-agains are also included in this group.
i bet you could find just as many disgruntle ex-catholics and ex-born-agains out in the world who have been severly hurt by their church.
Book,
You may be right about the happiness thing.
Warlock
wow.. so, you know i'm an active witness, very active.
hah.
and i'm not laughing at y'all, but wow, i can't believe how extensive this is.
I didn't like the idea of having only 80 years, either. That was 20 plus years ago.
You see, some of us were good little Dubs. Sitting on the edge of our seats to get the newest directives from the WTS. Don't go to college? o.k. we will obey, after all, the Big-A is just around the corner. Don't buy that house? o.k. the Big-A is coming soon anyway. Don't have a child? You say this is not the time to be having children? o.k. since we are living in the time of the 1914 Generation that will see the Big-A, we can have kids after the Big-A..........and on it goes. Am I bitter? Probably. Are these the facts? Yes. I wasn't a rebel, you see. I was just a good little sheep. Baaaaaaaaa.
Warlock