Welcome to the forum.
The fact that you've been out for ten years but just writing your first post brings up painful memories shows that no one can leave unscathed. Hopefully the fact that you can talk about it now shows that you are moving on!
so, i'm new to the site lurked around for a week or so now before signing up.
i'll try to keep this first post short.
just looking to make some connections with others that have been thru similar life experiences and help out anyone that feels empty and alone after leaving the "organization".
Welcome to the forum.
The fact that you've been out for ten years but just writing your first post brings up painful memories shows that no one can leave unscathed. Hopefully the fact that you can talk about it now shows that you are moving on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avnj9pl-i7i&feature=related.
positively enchanting.
syl.
I always liked that song, Snowbird. I just got back from Alabama-Gulf shores....far from snow, but very nice.
coffee shop guy directed me to his thread...thank you so much everyone for your thoughts of support, it means a lot to have people who understand and show genuine sympathy.
here's my experience so far.... my father dies monday night & my brother (nonjw) calls me to come home, when i arrive my father is still sitting on the couch- all the jw family is sitting in a semi-circle around him, my non jw brother is standing in the next room.
no one is crying, no one is talking.
I am so sorry to hear of your loss.
So glad that your brother could have a quiet time of remembrance with you. Perhaps after the convention is over, Mom may want to talk.
I remember a woman from years ago that told me about her mother dying in the hotel while at a convention...she was so pleased that she "died with her boots on." I know at the time I marveled at this theocratic view. They are just being good dubs...
well, football season (gridiron for all you commwealth-types) will be here soon and yours truly plans to attend a few games.
i'll also be going to quite a few basketball games when that season starts in november.
in the u.s., the national anthem is played before the start of such events.
I have decided that I will rise out of respect when asked to do so.
I think that is a good idea.
I didn't salute the flag for over thirty years. My dad was a Marine for over twenty years, serving in WWII and Korea. While I was "in" I began to become more educated as to the facts about WWII. I imagined the faces of the prisoners in Nazi concentration camps as they were liberated by Americans. Also, the GIs marching into France as it was liberated, how they were hailed.
I began to feel that I wanted to tell my father how proud of him I was. Of course, being in the "truth" kept me from expressing this sentiment. When I saw the flag, I felt a pride in accomplishment for the country.
My dad is dead now, and I am out. I never told him that I was proud of him before he died. I have to live with that, but I can show appreciation for his (and others') years of sacrifice by participating fully in the flag salute, and standing for our nation's anthem.
this is my very first post to this forum.
i am begging for some much needed encouragment and support by those who are kind hearted and know exactly the pain shunning causes.
i am a 30 year old former jehovah's witness and a mother of two beautiful girls.
Welcome.
I am so sorry you are being shunned. It is a cruel way to treat people and does extend pain deep to the soul, as you so aptly expressed it.
I also remember the trembling and shaking that accompanied my first post here, and the feelings of satisfaction that I could reach out to people who understood.
I am not disfellowshipped but it is just a technicality. My husband and I are "dangerous" so are unofficially shunned..amounts to the same, but I don't have any family in as you obviously do, and my pain stems from the fact that I distanced myself from my family as the WTS was my family for so many years. At any rate, we all have pain and scars from the WTS and so can really feel for you.
Please stay with us and let us help you to feel a bit better.
hello folks,.
i feel like a fish who has been struggling for oxygen so long he's almost dead.
time to grow some legs and get the hell out of hell.
Welcome to the forum.
After so many years, do you plan on staying in, feeling that it is all you know, or "fading" as others have done?
How about your wife? Does she agree with your current stance?
or at least that's what my super jw ex-roommate told me when i try to have an adult discussion w her about the importance of a higher education... according to her (a girl that never finished hs because it was not necessary) she has a better education than any college graduate because the jehovah has used the borg literatrash to teach her many many important things.... she says her knowledge of the "truth" is the equivalent of my 4 years of college education..... .
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is there a cure for stupid???!!
I tried to make myself fall for the WT=College education, too. But I had one year of college before I entered "the collective" and deep down knew better.
I wanted to go back to school years later, but my husband , an elder by then, said it "wouldn't look right" or "might stumble" some people. After a few more years I decided to take just a course here or there. I started back with the basics. I took Geology for my science, which I absolutely absorbed. I read the book three times, just for pure enjoyment. It answered many questions about our dynamic earth. I began to realize that if I were only younger (by this time I was in my forties) I could go in this direction of study. Then I took History and was hooked. The study of early civilizations...what? 30,000 years ago there were cave paintings? Nooooooo, the WT says that man has only been here a little over 6,000....and yet, here is the evidence!
Long story short...my family got out together, and although I was working full time (at a low paying job), I dove back into school. Though I can only take two classes per semester, I will graduate in one and one half years with a degree in History. I will be sixty years old, but I will be sixty with or without a degree and prefer the latter.
Poor girl that is working so hard. If she finds one day that she absolutely must have a job that pays more money, she will have a most difficult time finding one since she has limited education!
i'm a young man.
happily drifting.
the lie was my life.
Welcome.
Since you are still young, I hope that you get the education you could not previously.. you write well and would enjoy reading great literature, history, etc.
My husband, an elder for twenty years, my daughter and I are all out. My daughter is graduating from University with a degee in Biology this December.
i have put together a video - growing up a jehovah's witness 1960 -2010. it aims to show the things a witnesses would be taught as they age over those decades.
it is 15 minutes long.
this is my first attempt at a video and it took a while to work out how to use final cut, so please feel free to make suggestions if anything should be changed.
I am sure that this took a lot of time and effort. Very well done!
Very nice. I've always wanted to create something with clay. So glad you are enjoying it, and getting to put your creative ideas to use.