Bernie is the only way the Democrats keep the White House. Independents make up 40% of the electorate and this is currently where Bernie is getting a large majority of his support. Independents loathe Hillary and many if not the majority will stay home, switch to Trump, or vote Green out of protest once the general comes if Hillary gets the nomination. I'm sad seeing so many vote for the corporate, center/right warmonger and not the true progressive.
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And unless you make over 250,000 your taxes won't increase.
Not true. A policy or proposal should be strong enough to stand on its own merit. Your lying about it undermines the message Bernie Sanders is giving. Taxes will rise for all in a variation of forms including capital gain taxes and a tax to subsidize universal health coverage which includes those under $250,000 earned income.
Source: The Tax Foundation, an independent tax policy research organization, found that Sanders’ plan would lead to 10.56% lower after-tax income for all taxpayers, and a 17.91% lower after-tax income for the wealthiest Americans. When accounting for reduced GDP, taxpayers would see their after-tax incomes fall by 12.84% on average, the report said.
A better argument would be that Bernie Sanders tax increases would be a wash because of the benefits it supposedly would bring: For example an increase in taxes would be offset of the medical coverage it provides, etc.
The rest of your argument is opinion with not a single substantiating fact.I should have rephrased: You tax brackets would not change unless you are making over 250,000.
Yes you would see a slight raise in your taxes to pay for healthcare, BUT you would not be paying thousands for healthcare premiums as well as lowering medical costs. So I would say on Healthcare, it would be more than a wash, it would be a net gain.
As for the rest yes I suppose it's largely opinion I would be curious what part you consider incorrect. Bernie is an FDR democrat compare the two. Him being described as some "radical" only flies in the US where both parties are massively more right than the rest of the industrialized world. Anywhere else he would be considered moderate.
There has been no proof trickle down economics benefit anyone but the already wealthy. I tend to believe there is a reason most economist favor "liberal" economic policy over the typical tax cuts for the wealthy approach of the GOP.
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...lead to further waste and lazyness.
I fail to see how funding tuition free college at public universities and providing every man, women and child in the US with healthcare is going to lead to "further waste and lazyness."
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Nope. Actually Bernie supporters (myself included), understand our tax dollars should be appropriated to programs that actually benefit us. Medicare for all would save us around 9 trillions dollars. We spend 30 billion a year on bombs for the military, spending 60 billion to send every American to college tuition free in a no brainer investment to make.
And unless you make over 250,000 your taxes won't increase. Bernie is an FDR democrat and considered a center/moderate by pretty much every other countries standards. The US has swung so far right many are misinformed and don't understand this.
If you don't vote Bernie you are voting against your best economic interests pure and simple. Asher Edelmen, the real life person behind the Gordon Gekko character from "Wall Street" agrees his policies would be best for the US: http://usuncut.com/politics/gordon-gekko-sanders/ Over 170 of the nations top economists have come out in support of his proposals. Supply side economics > trickle down every day of the week.
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Reply to Bugbear: Why I believe in the Bible
by Saved_JW in[some words i corrected for spelling & grammer] .
"i have been studying the bible for almost 20 years....after graduating in history and science comparing to the the bible, i have have come to to the conclusion that the bible cannot give you any reason to believe in it at all.
so i wonder, why do you use the bible as facit to your believes?
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That's exactly more reason NOT to believe the Bible. The Earth isn't a circle it's a sphere. There is a word for sphere and whoever wrote the verse said circle. The Bible also refers to the Earth as having 4 corners. So the Bible describes the Earth as a round square. Yeah great book to base your life onYou said the bible cannot give you ANY REASON to believe it, well the bible says that the Earth is a circle, do you not believe that?
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Evolution is a Fact #12 - Lenski's E. coli Experiment
by cofty inevolution works by the non-random selection of random mutation.
natural selection accumulates favourable random chance events.. the experiment that was began on 24th february 1988 on e coli bacteria by dr richard e. lenski and his team is surely one of the clearest demonstrations of the power of this process.. e.coli is one of the commonest bacterium on earth, there is around 100 billion, billion of them in the world at any given time and around 1 billion of them in your gut right now.
most of the time they cause no problem, until a new strain wreaks havoc on its host's digestive system.. if we assume the probability of a particular gene mutating to be 1 in a billion, the size of the population is so high that just about every gene in the e.coli genome will have mutated somewhere in the world every day.
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Clambake why don't you try to bring something to the discussion rather than attacking cofty in every single one of his threads. Cofty shares very interesting facts in his own words and all you can come up with is calling him names. Funny cofty shows so much more grace in deflecting your harassment than you someone who is arguing for a creator. Actually I don't know what you believe because all you do is attack rather without offering an alternative. -
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Seriously....We have to start attacking this cult!!! Enough is enough!!
by DATA-DOG ini propose that we make pintrest accounts and start openly challenging this crap.. .
seriously.... any suggestions?
this crap cannot be left unchallenged.
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wow that is nuts and quite unnerving. Lol and what's funny is I know the family shown in the picture from the OP haha. -
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Fishing and JW's???
by lurkernomore inso i was just reading a thread and came across a completely new jw 'rule', that of not being allowed to go fishing!..
at least it's new to me as i always enjoyed fishing as did others in my old congregation.
anyone else heard of this or had this imposed on them in they're jw lives?.
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Is there a link to where you read this? Living in the Pacific Northwest pretty much everyone fishes and hunts. It's more rare if they don't. -
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When does it end? My marriage is 90% great for the most part, except when it come to this cult
by goingthruthemotions ini know marriage is tough and it takes work on both parts.
we have been together for 27 years.
the last eight have been involved with this cult.
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Don't give up on her. My wife was very upset and threatened divorce when I came clean about not wanting to be a witness. Fast forward roughly 2 years later and my wife is now awake. This doesn't always happen but there are success stories.
I found when I stopped trying to deconvert her and I just let the cults tactics work for themselves she started noticing things on her own. I had planted those seeds and her natural reason ability did the rest.